Chet Lemon
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I’m sure Spain’s defense is very good, but zero shots on goal in a championship game is why non-soccer people get frustrated watching soccer.
Honestly it was a slow burn that got more and more compelling the more and more chances Spain had and the more saves Martinez made. It started to get chippy, there was a red and Spain pressed harder. Then the goal and there was a belief Messi and Argentina might pull something out of their asses again. They had quality chances, but that was a generational defense that held them out.One of the two teams played 120 minutes and couldn't make a shot on goal. If you think that's exciting I've got nothing for you.
To your point the teams who enjoy the enthusiasm MLS might lack are in the USL. The ones I’m familiar with, Detroit City FC and the new version of the Tampa Bay Rowdies have grown their fan base organically in 7-8,000 seat facilities, which is just fineIt’s OK if it doesn’t match the NFL. Things can exist in their own lane.
John Strong needed a Jim Nantz like sentence after the final whistle.
To each their own, I guess. Some people like skinny redheads, some like fat blondes. It wasn't the most thrilling game I've watched the past few weeks, but I was engaged by it. Obviously your opinion varied.Martinez made 1 decent save. Argentina didn’t belong on the same field and brought nothing to the game other than petty dark arts
Well, I have come to think the best games in most sports happen in the semi- and quarter-finals. I suppose in that way, this tournament was not so different.I mean, not everybody watches basketball either. Soccer has deep enough roots now to assure it makes it in America. Fans here stopped trying to make converts a while ago and now just enjoy it.
It’s OK if it doesn’t match the NFL. Things can exist in their own lane.
All those Ivy League economics grads have to do something. They all can't work for daddy's hedge fund.Expected goals are trash. It’s analytics trying to force themselves onto a sport that has three stats that actually mean anything: goals, assists, saves. Anything else is nonsense. Match momentum? Ask how much that means to a counter attack team. Expected goals? Did you score? No? That and $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee. Spain had 11 shots on goal and a greater than 1 expected goals. They had 0 goals in regulation.
Why does American analytics have to get involved here? Remember when American stat takers tried to make headers a thing?
xG was first developed by an Englishman and popularized by Opta - which is based in the UK.Expected goals are trash. It’s analytics trying to force themselves onto a sport that has three stats that actually mean anything: goals, assists, saves. Anything else is nonsense. Match momentum? Ask how much that means to a counter attack team. Expected goals? Did you score? No? That and $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee. Spain had 11 shots on goal and a greater than 1 expected goals. They had 0 goals in regulation.
Why does American analytics have to get involved here? Remember when American stat takers tried to make headers a thing?
You’re not helping my point here …xG was first developed by an Englishman and popularized by Opta - which is based in the UK.
It's bad enough when I counter Brits who parrot this nonsense, but here?You’re not helping my point here …
I still think it’s trash and I still think Americans meddle too much. Now get off my lawn
Um … I was responding sarcastically to someone pointing out I was wrong. I don’t think kicking me in the nuts after was really needed.It's bad enough when I counter Brits who parrot this nonsense, but here?
What does xG have to do with Americans? It's a statistic. Not invented by Americans, nor primarily promoted by them. If anything, I've seen xG front and center on European coverage, especially with the Bundesliga where it's literally listed with the final score in their score bugs.
I don't have a lot of time for xG either, but it's just a stat. Embrace it or ignore it, one's enjoyment of the game shouldn't be affected by it. And blaming Americans for it is just an easy cheap shot that has no basis in reality.