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The Smoltz-Alexander deal was a great deal for the Tigers. Alexander went 9-0 and the Tigers won the division (and probably should have won the WS).

Smoltz at the moment was a decent but not great Class A prospect.

Given the Tigers' record at developing pitching at that time, he was probably 50-50 to make the majors at all. Nobody had any reason to believe or expect he would become a Hall of Famer, but even if he had, the Tigers were never good enough during his career that even adding HOF Level John Smoltz to their pitching staff would have gotten them into the playoffs. I think during the time span of Smoltz' career the tigers only finished within 15 games of the playoffs once or twice.
The Tigers’ problem was at the time they had one of the crappiest farm systems in the the majors. Other than Smoltz they didn’t have much to offer and Smoltz was getting crushed in Double A. Johnny Sain worked with Smoltz after the trade and helped him become the pitcher he was. I think if Smoltz had stayed with the Tigers he would have left as a free agent because those Tigers teams were terrible
 
The Tigers’ problem was at the time they had one of the crappiest farm systems in the the majors. Other than Smoltz they didn’t have much to offer and Smoltz was getting crushed in Double A. Johnny Sain worked with Smoltz after the trade and helped him become the pitcher he was. I think if Smoltz had stayed with the Tigers he would have left as a free agent because those Tigers teams were terrible

Yep. The Detroit farm system turned our tremendous talent from about 1976-82, but then after the glorious WS title in '84, the well dried up.
 
I think at one point between 1986-2003, the only two first-rounders with 15 career WAR who came up through the Detroit farm system were Travis Fryman and Jeff "Dream" Weaver. Bobby Higginson was a 12th-rounder in 1992. So that's three "league average" guys in almost two decades of terribleness.

Under the craptacular Randy Smith regime, the Tigers went five consecutive years without getting a first-round pick to post a positive WAR in the major leagues, and four of those washed out before they ever made it to Detroit.

The Tigers have had a respectable farm system three times in my lifetime. The first brought **** McAuliffe, Bill Freehan, Willie Horton, Mickey Stanley, Jim Northrup and Mickey Lolich (mainly kids scouted from Michigan and Ohio). The second was the 1974-78 Bill LaJoie group, which included Jack Morris, Dave Rozema, Dan Petry, Lance Parrish, Lou Whitaker, Alan Trammell and Kirk Gibson (along with Mark Fidrych, Jason Thompson, Steve Kemp and Howard Johnson).

I guess No. 3 would include Curtis Granderson and Justin Verlander, but almost all of the "homegrown" Tigers from 2006-15 were picked from other farm systems and developed in-house. They couldn't draft actual players to save their own jobs. Dombrowski just bought a bunch of free agents to try and buy a World Series for Mike Ilitch. It didn't work.

That's what makes Kevin McGonigle so intriguing. The Tigers haven't had a bonafide Trammell-type player come up through the system since I was playing baseball myself. Hopefully Max Clark, Max Anderson, Bryce Rainer and a couple of others will form the core of the next great Detroit era. If not, I'm only 67. I can afford to wait another 40 years.
 
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Three years later, the Red Sox traded Jeff Bagwell for Larry Andersen. A bad trade, given the Red Sox's ceiling was serving as cannon fodder for the Athletics, but to be fair, they couldn't have known Bagwell's career would be JUICED by the move to Houston. Six homers in 205 minor league games and 15 in his rookie season at the launching pad known as the Astrodome.
That’s a great stat: 6 HR in 205 low minors games? Who wouldn’t trade that guy for any proven and need real big leaguer?
 
But he hit a lot of doubles and walked more than he struck out. Both very good signs.
Also hit for a high average and played in an extreme pitcher's park at Double-A. But still. It's not like the Astrodome was Coors Field. All those Astros guys magically found power in the '90s.

Biggio: Four homers in 1990 (150 games) and 1991 (149 games), 21 homers in 1993
Finley: 47 homers in 919 games from 1989-95, four 30+ HR seasons thereafter
Gonzalez: never had more than 15 HRs in a season from 1990-97, seven 20+ HR seasons thereafer including the 57-HR season in 2001
Caminiti: 18 HRs in 407 games from 1987-90, 10+ HRs in his final 11 seasons
 
Also hit for a high average and played in an extreme pitcher's park at Double-A. But still. It's not like the Astrodome was Coors Field. All those Astros guys magically found power in the '90s.

Biggio: Four homers in 1990 (150 games) and 1991 (149 games), 21 homers in 1993
Finley: 47 homers in 919 games from 1989-95, four 30+ HR seasons thereafter
Gonzalez: never had more than 15 HRs in a season from 1990-97, seven 20+ HR seasons thereafer including the 57-HR season in 2001
Caminiti: 18 HRs in 407 games from 1987-90, 10+ HRs in his final 11 seasons
They moved to a much more hitter-friendly stadium in 2000. Whatever they call that place these days, it's a launching pad.

And yeah, some of them definitely juiced.
 
Also hit for a high average and played in an extreme pitcher's park at Double-A. But still. It's not like the Astrodome was Coors Field. All those Astros guys magically found power in the '90s.

Biggio: Four homers in 1990 (150 games) and 1991 (149 games), 21 homers in 1993
Finley: 47 homers in 919 games from 1989-95, four 30+ HR seasons thereafter
Gonzalez: never had more than 15 HRs in a season from 1990-97, seven 20+ HR seasons thereafer including the 57-HR season in 2001
Caminiti: 18 HRs in 407 games from 1987-90, 10+ HRs in his final 11 seasons
Biggio's home runs weren't that big of a jump. It is fair to be suspicious of Finley and Gonzalez, but there is no real evidence. Caminiti juiced. That is fact.

There is no real evidence at all regarding Bagwell. I've heard guilt by association, and his power grew in the majors. Some guys do get stronger cleanly and improve their swings at the major-league level. Some juice.
 
It looks like Drake Baldwin is finally feeling better. That, or he just likes facing the Rangers' pitching staff. He had three hits and a homer Friday, two hits Saturday, and he's 5-for-5 with two home runs so far today.
 
If the O's hold onto this three-run lead in Houston heading into the ninth, it sets up a hell of a series in Beantown -- Orioles will have won seven straight, Boston 13 straight. Three gamer starts tomorrow night.
 

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