2021 Pro Wrestling Thread

[JimmyHoward33]

Keith Lee is a natural Gif machine. Once the E leans into that hes gonna be irrepressable

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Somewhere, The Sheik and Jerry Lawler are smiling.

 

[JRoyal]

If they're going to give Miz the MITB case, and then give it back to him, why are they having him lose practically every match he's in? They could've given the case to any of the other guys in the MITB match other than Otis and they would've been great with it. Even after Otis winning, they could've gotten it to Corbin or Styles. But they give it to the Miz and keep him losing matches. It makes zero sense. Build him up as a threat of some kind at least.

 

[JRoyal]

Of course, I'm also the guy that still thinks the Miz could be a top heel with a top belt if they'd do things right.

 

[nietsroob17]

WWE put together a great collection of Luke Harper's top matches, with wrestler reactions in between, and the first on-camera recollection I've seen so far from Bray.

WWE Network - Best of Luke Harper

 

[JimmyHoward33]

Of course, I'm also the guy that still thinks the Miz could be a top heel with a top belt if they'd do things right.

he can be. The beauty is the second he cashes in everyone forgets the last 2-4 months.

look at nakamura, all the matches hes lost erased with one gauntlet match

 

[Batman]

I keep wondering if the "has been B-level star" is a self-deferential part of Miz's gimmick, or they just don't realize how sad it sounds to brag on main eventing one Wrestlemania 10 years ago.

 

[JimmyHoward33]

Has the queen ever met Brock Lesnar or Bill Goldberg...

 

[Batman]

Has the queen ever met Brock Lesnar or Bill Goldberg...

Or John Cena or The Rock.
Who was trashing her? Why wouldn't she be at the top of the women's division when she's around?

 

[JimmyHoward33]

Some no name rasslin web site that for whatever reason she decided to engage with.

i hope for her sake she’s living the gimmick online and she doesnt actually believe the nonsense about sexism or whatever.

she intruded on Becky’s Mania main event. She destroyed Ria Ripleys career. She has more world championships than Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles combined.

And she’s amazing, all that stuff is deserved, but if anyone in WWE expects that stuff not to **** of a segment of the fanbase they’ve had their heads buried since 1999.

 

[JRoyal]

Some no name rasslin web site that for whatever reason she decided to engage with.

i hope for her sake she’s living the gimmick online and she doesnt actually believe the nonsense about sexism or whatever.

she intruded on Becky’s Mania main event. She destroyed Ria Ripleys career. She has more world championships than Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles combined.

And she’s amazing, all that stuff is deserved, but if anyone in WWE expects that stuff not to **** of a segment of the fanbase they’ve had their heads buried since 1999.

Comparing the number of titles she has to Bryan and Styles is unfair. Styles hasn't been in the WWE as long, and when Charlotte was called up, the women's division was not nearly as deep as it is now. The men's division has always been much deeper.

WWE has had a problem for years with booking its top women. They don't know what to do with them when they aren't in a title hunt. It's gotten better lately, but the problem isn't Flair or her talent. It's the bookers. NXT does a much better job of it, actually building rivalries away from the women's belt. They don't seem to be able to do that on Raw and Smackdown.

 

[sgreenwell]

Comparing the number of titles she has to Bryan and Styles is unfair. Styles hasn't been in the WWE as long, and when Charlotte was called up, the women's division was not nearly as deep as it is now. The men's division has always been much deeper.

WWE has had a problem for years with booking its top women. They don't know what to do with them when they aren't in a title hunt. It's gotten better lately, but the problem isn't Flair or her talent. It's the bookers. NXT does a much better job of it, actually building rivalries away from the women's belt. They don't seem to be able to do that on Raw and Smackdown.

The constant with Raw and Smackdown, vs. NXT, would be Vince. I don't think he views anything outside of the women's belt matches as important, so he's always going to favor non-title men's matches over non-title women's matches.

 

[JimmyHoward33]

Comparing the number of titles she has to Bryan and Styles is unfair. Styles hasn't been in the WWE as long, and when Charlotte was called up, the women's division was not nearly as deep as it is now. The men's division has always been much deeper.

WWE has had a problem for years with booking its top women. They don't know what to do with them when they aren't in a title hunt. It's gotten better lately, but the problem isn't Flair or her talent. It's the bookers. NXT does a much better job of it, actually building rivalries away from the women's belt. They don't seem to be able to do that on Raw and Smackdown.

alright, so shes got 11 world titles, the other 3 horsewomen have 15 combined.

point being when any man is around the title that much (see Cena, John) it brings the same boo’s and heat from the audience. Male/female has nothing to do with it

 

[JRoyal]

alright, so shes got 11 world titles, the other 3 horsewomen have 15 combined.

point being when any man is around the title that much (see Cena, John) it brings the same boo’s and heat from the audience. Male/female has nothing to do with it

Yeah, that number is a little crazy, but they've never given her a long reign like they have Becky and Bayley. With all her reigns combined, she's still only held a belt for a couple of weeks longer than Becky and about a month longer than Bayley.

And I'm not saying she hasn't had the belt too much. They tend to default to her when they don't have any ideas, then pull it off her a few months later when they figure out what to do. It's crappy booking. But her point wasn't that it bothers people. It was that this dude who crapped on her never put that effort into crapping on Cena or others. It wasn't an attack on all fandom. It was an attack on a ****ty writer.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

I don’t watch WWE and only know what’s happening there thanks to this thread. But WTF was that bit about staring at lights to create a star?

 

[Batman]

Yeah, that number is a little crazy, but they've never given her a long reign like they have Becky and Bayley. With all her reigns combined, she's still only held a belt for a couple of weeks longer than Becky and about a month longer than Bayley.

And I'm not saying she hasn't had the belt too much. They tend to default to her when they don't have any ideas, then pull it off her a few months later when they figure out what to do. It's crappy booking. But her point wasn't that it bothers people. It was that this dude who crapped on her never put that effort into crapping on Cena or others. It wasn't an attack on all fandom. It was an attack on a ****ty writer.

So she's basically the female Randy Orton.

 

[Batman]

I don’t watch WWE and only know what’s happening there thanks to this thread. But WTF was that bit about staring at lights to create a star?

"Staring at the lights" is a wrestling term for losing (i.e., you're getting pinned and looking up at the arena lights). She's talking about being in a feud or feuds where she lost a lot to try to get another wrestler over.
I can't remember her feuds well enough to figure out which star she's referring to, though. Is it Becky? Rousey? Lacey Evans? Some combination?

 

[JimmyHoward33]

"Staring at the lights" is a wrestling term for losing (i.e., you're getting pinned and looking up at the arena lights). She's talking about being in a feud or feuds where she lost a lot to try to get another wrestler over.
I can't remember her feuds well enough to figure out which star she's referring to, though. Is it Becky? Rousey? Lacey Evans? Some combination?

i vaguely remember her shooting on the preMania interview circuit either last year or the year before. She said the fans think she wins all the time but she’d lost like 6 PPVs in a row or something. I dont remember much of it. Mustve been putting over Becky and Rousey going to Mania in NY.

 

[JRoyal]

"Staring at the lights" is a wrestling term for losing (i.e., you're getting pinned and looking up at the arena lights). She's talking about being in a feud or feuds where she lost a lot to try to get another wrestler over.
I can't remember her feuds well enough to figure out which star she's referring to, though. Is it Becky? Rousey? Lacey Evans? Some combination?

There's a website that has all of a wrestler's matches (or at least all they can find a record of), and there was a pretty long period where she had a bunch of losses. Was a combo of folks, but Becky and Bayley were a lot of them.

 

[Batman]

It's the last day of voting for the 2020 Gooker Award. Retribution looks to be the runaway leader so far.

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