2013 MLB Hall of Fame Screechfest

[MisterCreosote]

The ballot was released today, with Bonds, Clemens, Sosa and Biggio leading the first-timers:

http://bbwaa.com/

First-timers:
Sandy Alomar Jr.
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Jeff Cirillo
Royce Clayton
Roger Clemens
Jeff Conine
Steve Finley
Julio Franco
Shawn Green
Roberto Hernandez
Ryan Klesko
Kenny Lofton
Jose Mesa
Mike Piazza
Reggie Sanders
Curt Schilling
Aaron Sele
Sammy Sosa
Mike Stanton
Larry Walker
David Wells
Rondell White
Woody Williams

Returning to the ballot:
Jeff Bagwell
Edgar Martinez
Don Mattingly
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Rafael Palmeiro
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Todd Walker
Bernie Williams

Discuss.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Jack Morris

That's going to be fun. I am already clearing my schedule.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Todd Walker got enough votes to STAY on the ballot?

 

[Armchair_QB]

If Jack Morris had turned in his 1991 Game 7 performance for the Yankees he'd already be in Cooperstown.

 

[Dick Whitman]

If Jack Morris had turned in his 1991 Game 7 performance for the Yankees he'd already be in Cooperstown.

My response to this is the same as it always is: Name the Yankees who don't deserve to be in the HOF.

 

[X-Hack]

Catfish Hunter

 

[Dick Whitman]

Biggio
Bagwell
Schilling
Piazza
Raines
Edgar

 

[YGBFKM]

Phil Rizzuto

 

[Armchair_QB]

If Jack Morris had turned in his 1991 Game 7 performance for the Yankees he'd already be in Cooperstown.

My response to this is the same as it always is: Name the Yankees who don't deserve to be in the HOF.

In addition to Phil Rizzuto?

 

[Dick Whitman]

Phil Rizzuto

Clarification: BBWAA-elected Yankees.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Phil Rizzuto

Clarification: BBWAA-elected Yankees.

Don't see the difference. He's in the Hall either way.

 

[LongTimeListener]

In other names, I see Bonds and Clemens getting in and by a comfortable margin. The five-year wait has worked to their benefit as we now know that what they were doing was happening in every clubhouse in the game.

 

[Armchair_QB]

In other names, I see Bonds and Clemens getting in and by a comfortable margin. The five-year wait has worked to their benefit as we now know that what they were doing was happening in every clubhouse in the game.

They'll get in but I'd be surprised if they're first ballot guys.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Does anyone do a straw poll a la HeismanPundit?

It just strikes me that with those two, most people accept a clear spot on the timeline where they started doing it ('99 for Bonds, '97-98 for Clemens), and by then they were a three-time MVP and three-time Cy Young winner anyway.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Phil Rizzuto

Clarification: BBWAA-elected Yankees.

Don't see the difference. He's in the Hall either way.

The difference is that this is a counter-argument against the idea that Morris would be in already had he been a Yankee.

And the BBWAA is the body that would have allegedly been favoring said Yankee.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Bonds, Clemens, Raines. But what I'm most interested in is whether Schilling gets much support.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

I'll vote for him. I imagine he'll have a moderate to decent showing for a first ballot candidate who's not an obvious lock.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Honest question: would he even get 5 percemt without the sock?

 

[Dick Whitman]

Honest question: would he even get 5 percemt without the sock?

Oh, yeah. Definitely. The 2001 postseason and being an all-time 1-2 punch with Randy Johnson would have him in the discussion.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

This is going to be a fun one to watch...