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    sports editor, Florida Today

    What did happen here, anyway? Surely they must have hired someone by now. Is Ralph Routon still there?
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    So who is watching CBS Evening News tonight?

    Didn't watch it, never do -- who doesn't know what's going on in the world by 6:30 p.m.? -- but I did notice that while others were out covering the war, investigating what's (not) going on in New Orlans, she was on a tour asking viewers what they wanted. That's the kind of news we do at our...
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    No ethics from SE

    Let us know who he is so we can hold him up to national journalistic scorn
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    Pat Forde a little misleading?

    An overstatement seems to have resulted in excessive commentary, including this one. It can't be known whether he'll play in college again, though it seems likely he won't. Forde figured that out and corrected appropriately.
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    Worst lede ever

    It wasn't Harry Missildine, but yeah, it does sound a little like him. Let us not forget, for all his foibles, Harry gave the world The Big Sky Conference and he named Dee Andros The Great Pumpkin
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    Worst lede ever

    One of the oldtimers at a paper out west had quite the literary flair, sort of like the dialogue on Deadwood at times. The guy covered the Pacific Coast League team now and again; at the start of the season when he looked toward the unfolding hopes, he would write the team wanted to: annex the...
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    A good reason why a lot of smart Americans are getting turned off by the media

    Nicely said, jg. It used to be, or at least my impression is that there was a time when newspapers were able to establish a certain tone of public discourse that improved the level of conversation on a given subject, but now it seems we fell we've been taken over by radio yakkers, bloggers and...
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    A good reason why a lot of smart Americans are getting turned off by the media

    Somebody seems to have lost his/her place. When Alma says: "As a secondary argument, I'd suggest that the overuse of anonymous sources - in news and sports and even the ****ing arts sections - has hit epidemic proportions to the point where, now, reporters are quoting other reporters as "people...
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    A good reason why a lot of smart Americans are getting turned off by the media

    No question that the two are different. If the point is, you can get away with it here, you can't get around it there is probably a 10 second discussion having to do with this sheild law, that shield law etc. But if the discussion is about the big picture and what journalists in America are...
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    A good reason why a lot of smart Americans are getting turned off by the media

    That was enlightening. An arm of the government releases all the "secret" testimony it wishes for political reasons -- no problem. Two reporters use some secret testimony to expose the truth and we should be more concerned about their source than we are about the truth. Let's take a looooong...
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    A good reason why a lot of smart Americans are getting turned off by the media

    So, those who think Mark and Lance should be jailed because their sopurces took them to very center of the truth about the steroids scandal need to explain a couple things: 1. Why is it more important that the government can use journalist as a kind of arm of the police than it is getting out...
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    The Best Quotes You Couldn't Use

    At a Bulls NBA Finals practice, I think in '96 against Seattle and I notice Salley by himself, watching everyone else be interviewed. I ask him, given his deep backup role, if it gets frustrating being on the team or if winning is enough. "Frustrated?" he says, "I'm happier than a faggot with a...
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    Landis: Who out there really cares, and how much?

    It has to be an A1 story for the obvious weight of 7 years of Lance, the new American taking over at a time just before major hip surgery. We've gone waaaayyy past the point where only the stuff we covered 10 years ago merits the cover today. The world is still shrinking, folks, and we should...
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    My Football South

    Well done and a good way to get readers fired up about college football, but let's be honest, the Jackie Sherrill quote about race relations (I've read it before), is complete fantasy at its best. Oh yeah, all white teams in the 60s, the only section of the country that didn't integrate, those...
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