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Craig Biggio is a great guy. Anyone who has covered him will attest to that. However, watching him in his quest to reach 3,000 hits is difficult.
It's also been hard to watch Barry Bonds, like him or not, quest to break Hank Aaron's home run mark of 755.
I know it's hard for an athlete to call it quits but are there others who feeling its hard watching these two play?
 
The only time I enjoy watching Barry Bonds is when he looks like a helpless broken down old man.
Piece of **** cheating scumbag.
 
I'm guessing that's why the Astros won't trade Chris Burke despite a few calls for him.
 
Why is it hard to watch Barry?
I personally like to see him rejuvenated as it were.
He's had a decent 1st 2 months or so.
Biggio? Very painful.
 
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I'm sorry, but you get that close to a magic number, you've earned the right to stumble your way there.

It's not like Biggio is stumbling there from 2,800 hits, like Harold Baines threatened to do. And despite his subpar average, he's still averaging an extra-base hit every 9-something ABs. That's pretty good for a 42-year-old.
 
Biggio is going to get 3,000 hits the honest way. I hope he gets the record, and when he does I will cheer for him. Bonds cheated. I hope he takes a fastball in the knee and has to retire on the spot.
 
hockeybeat said:
Biggio is going to get 3,000 hits the honest way. I hope he gets the record, and when he does I will cheer for him. Bonds cheated. I hope he takes a fastball in the knee and has to retire on the spot.

Sorry, but we have no idea if Biggio cheated either.
 
BYH said:
hockeybeat said:
Biggio is going to get 3,000 hits the honest way. I hope he gets the record, and when he does I will cheer for him. Bonds cheated. I hope he takes a fastball in the knee and has to retire on the spot.
Sorry, but we have no idea if Biggio cheated either.
You're right. We don't know if Biggio cheated. I based my assumption on years of watching the Long Island native single and double his way to the HOF without noticeable weight gain or head growth.
 
hockeybeat said:
BYH said:
hockeybeat said:
Biggio is going to get 3,000 hits the honest way. I hope he gets the record, and when he does I will cheer for him. Bonds cheated. I hope he takes a fastball in the knee and has to retire on the spot.
Sorry, but we have no idea if Biggio cheated either.
You're right. We don't know if Biggio cheated. I based my assumption on years of watching the Long Island native single and double his way to the HOF without noticeable weight gain or head growth.

His ****ing batting helmet is so big it's hard to tell how much his melon has grown. He looks like the Great Gazoo with that thing on.
 
Has anyone seen Julio Franco play anymore? Now that's painful. I don't care how fit someone is, it doesn't mean they should still be playing baseball.
 
hockeybeat said:
BYH said:
hockeybeat said:
Biggio is going to get 3,000 hits the honest way. I hope he gets the record, and when he does I will cheer for him. Bonds cheated. I hope he takes a fastball in the knee and has to retire on the spot.
Sorry, but we have no idea if Biggio cheated either.
You're right. We don't know if Biggio cheated. I based my assumption on years of watching the Long Island native single and double his way to the HOF without noticeable weight gain or head growth.

And we know for sure that he never drank the "leaded" coffee in the clubhouse or threw back greenies to make it through the season?
 
He did it too! is a kid's excuse. Bonds is what he is, likewise Biggio. Judge 'em on their own merits.

I thought I learned my lesson a long time ago, but I have to keep reminding myself on this one...
 
Is it any more painful than seeing Babe Ruth in a Braves uniform, or Joe Montana with the Chiefs? There are too many examples of athletes holding on past their prime. coughBrettFavrecough.
 
BYH said:
I'm sorry, but you get that close to a magic number, you've earned the right to stumble your way there.

It's not like Biggio is stumbling there from 2,800 hits, like Harold Baines threatened to do. And despite his subpar average, he's still averaging an extra-base hit every 9-something ABs. That's pretty good for a 42-year-old.

Exactly. I would love to see Biggio get to 3,000 and then walk away into retirement after this season.
 
Oz said:
BYH said:
I'm sorry, but you get that close to a magic number, you've earned the right to stumble your way there.

It's not like Biggio is stumbling there from 2,800 hits, like Harold Baines threatened to do. And despite his subpar average, he's still averaging an extra-base hit every 9-something ABs. That's pretty good for a 42-year-old.

Exactly. I would love to see Biggio get to 3,000 and then walk away into retirement after this season.

Oz, we've disagreed on things in the past, but I'm in complete agreement with you here. I'd love to see Biggio hit 3K, then ride off into the sunset.
 
Bruce_Shoebottom said:
Oz, we've disagreed on things in the past, but I'm in complete agreement with you here. I'd love to see Biggio hit 3K, then ride off into the sunset.

And then ride into Cooperstown, whenever it calls. I failed to add that in the original post.
 
Watching selfish players hurt their teams in quest of individual records is usually painful.

Exhibit A: Cal
 
Folks, there's never even been a sniff of a hint of a suggestion that Biggio has ever done anything illegal with regards to his playing days or drugs. Just because there's so much smoke from the Bonds camp doesn't mean all players therefore become suspect.

Biggio's a good guy with lots of baseball heart. But it is painful to watch him struggle to 3,000.
 

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