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I know people either love him or hate him, but here's T.J. Simers' latest offering on Kobe Bryant with an interesting twist about "possible" plagiarism.

Thoughts?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers15feb15,1,2891620.column?coll=la-headlines-sports
 
Simers should be equally embarrassed. That is a piece of **** without an original thought in it.
 
spnited said:
Simers should be equally embarrassed. That is a piece of **** without an original thought in it.

how so? has somebody else written that Vecsey gets his ideas - and material - from a blogger? how is Simers' piece not original?

i like Vecsey but agree with SoSueMe on this

awfully embarrassing
 
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spnited said:
Simers should be equally embarrassed. That is a piece of **** without an original thought in it.

Oh, C'mon. You discount everything Simers does. Your assessment is a little off, don't you think?
Maybe not the best column ever written. But, it was a reported column. That one didn't come off the top of the head.
 
Interesting column. I was on the plagarizing ship until I read this:

The letter read very much like the fan's blog and Elliott told Vecsey to use whatever he wanted in the newspaper, and obviously Vecsey did.
 
MileHigh said:
Interesting column. I was on the plagarizing ship until I read this:

The letter read very much like the fan's blog and Elliott told Vecsey to use whatever he wanted in the newspaper, and obviously Vecsey did.

If you are using the guy's words and thoughts without attributing them, it's still plagiarism, even if you have permission.
 
great read, writers need to call out other writers on bs like this, is there some kind of unspoken code?
 
MileHigh said:
Interesting column. I was on the plagarizing ship until I read this:

The letter read very much like the fan's blog and Elliott told Vecsey to use whatever he wanted in the newspaper, and obviously Vecsey did.

I'm with you on that. But, here is one of the most well-connected guys in the industry. And he's copying almost verbatim something some nutcase wrote on a blog? "I've never seen the blog."
 
Ace said:
MileHigh said:
Interesting column. I was on the plagarizing ship until I read this:

The letter read very much like the fan's blog and Elliott told Vecsey to use whatever he wanted in the newspaper, and obviously Vecsey did.

If you are using the guy's words and thoughts without attributing them, it's still plagiarism, even if you have permission.

off with his head!
no mercy.
and put his family in jail while you're at it.
a disgrace to mankind.
 
henryhecht said:
Ace said:
MileHigh said:
Interesting column. I was on the plagarizing ship until I read this:

The letter read very much like the fan's blog and Elliott told Vecsey to use whatever he wanted in the newspaper, and obviously Vecsey did.

If you are using the guy's words and thoughts without attributing them, it's still plagiarism, even if you have permission.

off with his head!
no mercy.
and put his family in jail while you're at it.
a disgrace to mankind.

I'm just making a point that even if you have permission, it's still plagiarism.

If plagiarism is OK in your book, that's peachy, too.
 
if you have permission who is harmed?

speeding through a crowded crosswalk is different than speeding on an empty stretch of road.

the 'p' word turns otherwise normal compassionate people into bloodthirsty snarling wolves. not all plagiarism is equal - despite what the ideologues say.
 
henryhecht said:
if you have permission who is harmed?

Um, the readers? The same readers who think less and less of the media each and every day.
 
henryhecht said:
if you have permission who is harmed?

speeding through a crowded crosswalk is different than speeding on an empty stretch of road.

the 'p' word turns otherwise normal compassionate people into bloodthirsty snarling wolves. not all plagiarism is equal - despite what the ideologues say.

it's like this, henri.

we are in class taking a test. you haven't studied so you copy off mine. i move my elbow so you can see my answers better.

who is harmed?

does that mean it's not cheating?
 
henryhecht said:
if you have permission who is harmed?

speeding through a crowded crosswalk is different than speeding on an empty stretch of road.

the 'p' word turns otherwise normal compassionate people into bloodthirsty snarling wolves. not all plagiarism is equal - despite what the ideologues say.

If that's your thoughts on any form of plagiarism, you should probably rethink your worth to this business. If you polled people in this business and asked them what they thought of plagiarism, they'd probably rank it as the worst sin you could commit.

And rightfully so.
 
So now the people who read the LA Times know that the NY Post's supposed NBA insider has little or no credibility. Yup, people in LA really care about that.

And most of the people in NY already know Peter Vecsey has little or no credibility.
 
spnited said:
So now the people who read the LA Times know that the NY Post's supposed NBA insider has little or no credibility. Yup, people in LA really care about that.

My local newspaper carries an NHL hockey roundup, and I don't care. I'm going to cancel my subscription because of it.

And the columnist at the NY Post was writing about the LA Lakers, who I believe are located in LA, so I imagine a few people might have had some interest in what he said.
 

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