Yankee Fans: Morons

[secretariat]

Not referring to our esteemed poster, of course.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-nyc-baseball-fans-say-jeter-as-great-as-babe-ruth-20110729,0,7824493.story

 

[YankeeFan]

It's dumb, but **** like this always happens.

If you took the poll at the right time, Mark Grace would have been voted the best Cub of all time.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I didn't know Ian O'Connor could vote that many times...

 

[Dick Whitman]

I know a two-person poll I could take that would vote Barack Obama the greatest President in U.S. history.

What can you say? People get swept up in the current moment.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Did they also vote Hideki Irabu the best Yankee pitcher of all-time?

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Realistically, where should Jeter rank among all-time Yankee players?

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio would all be miles and miles ahead of him.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Realistically, where should Jeter rank among all-time Yankee players?

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio would all be miles and miles ahead of him.

Probably right after those guys and in a dead heat with Yogi Berra.

For all their world titles, the dropoff is shockingly immense after the first few names.

 

[YankeeFan]

Realistically, where should Jeter rank among all-time Yankee players?

Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio would all be miles and miles ahead of him.

Probably right after those guys and in a dead heat with Yogi Berra.

For all their world titles, the dropoff is shockingly immense after the first few names.

I'd say after Berra, but that's about right.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I guess it's all in how you frame the debate and maybe he wasn't there long enough, but Roger Maris' two MVP seasons are worth any five of Jeter's best years.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I put him between Brien Taylor and Irabu.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I guess it's all in how you frame the debate and maybe he wasn't there long enough, but Roger Maris' two MVP seasons are worth any five of Jeter's best years.

I was thinking Maris, too, but afraid to say it out loud. I'm glad someone else was thinking that.

 

[Dick Whitman]

BTW, did anyone read the recent biography of Maris? Looking for some baseball reading material, and he's a guy I'm intrigued by but don't know a ton about.

 

[YankeeFan]

I guess it's all in how you frame the debate and maybe he wasn't there long enough, but Roger Maris' two MVP seasons are worth any five of Jeter's best years.

You've pointed out the problem with Maris' case.

Jeter's longevity, and the number of team records he will have when he's done, puts him ahead of Maris.

And, that's no knock on Maris.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The problem with Maris is that he only had two great seasons, maybe two more "good" seasons and the rest were highly mediocre.

Jeter has never been mediocre.

 

[YankeeFan]

The problem with Maris is that he only had two great seasons, maybe two more "good" seasons and the rest were highly mediocre.

Jeter has never been mediocre.

Jeter's been pretty mediocre for a while now.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The problem with Maris is that he only had two great seasons, maybe two more "good" seasons and the rest were highly mediocre.

Jeter has never been mediocre.

Jeter's been pretty mediocre for a while now.

Well... OK, point taken...

 

[Armchair_QB]

I guess it's all in how you frame the debate and maybe he wasn't there long enough, but Roger Maris' two MVP seasons are worth any five of Jeter's best years.

You've pointed out the problem with Maris' case.

Jeter's longevity, and the number of team records he will have when he's done, puts him ahead of Maris.

And, that's no knock on Maris.

This is actually an interesting question. On paper, Jeter would have to be considered one of the greatest Yankees ever. However...

If not for WWII costing him three years, DiMaggio probably gets to 3,000 hits. Gehrig probably does as well if not for ALS.

For postseason records, in order to make a fair assessment, you really can only consider World Series stats. Not sure where Jeter stacks up against the rest in that regard.

 

[Freelance Hack]

Agree that Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle and DiMaggio are the top 4. Berra would be fifth. Also, I'd consider putting Rivera up there ahead of Jeter.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Agree that Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle and DiMaggio are the top 4. Berra would be fifth. Also, I'd consider putting Rivera up there ahead of Jeter.

If pitchers are included, then also Whitey Ford.

 

[YankeeFan]

I guess it's all in how you frame the debate and maybe he wasn't there long enough, but Roger Maris' two MVP seasons are worth any five of Jeter's best years.

You've pointed out the problem with Maris' case.

Jeter's longevity, and the number of team records he will have when he's done, puts him ahead of Maris.

And, that's no knock on Maris.

This is actually an interesting question. On paper, Jeter would have to be considered one of the greatest Yankees ever. However...

If not for WWII costing him three years, DiMaggio probably gets to 3,000 hits. Gehrig probably does as well if not for ALS.

For postseason records, in order to make a fair assessment, you really can only consider World Series stats. Not sure where Jeter stacks up against the rest in that regard.

But Gehrig & DiMaggio are already ahead of Jeter.

Agree that Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle and DiMaggio are the top 4. Berra would be fifth. Also, I'd consider putting Rivera up there ahead of Jeter.

Certainly worthy of discussion. You could go either way and I'd have a hard time arguing with you.