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And once again, Whitlock makes himself the centre of attention.

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Kinda like how January Jones is the center of attention of all your posts. Sometimes, I don't even get to your actual post
 
Man, if that's what he does to a fellow journalist I'd hate to be the Backroom Casting Couch guy once he finds out there is no job paying $1,000 to $5,000 a day. [/obscurecrossthreading]
 
Steak Snabler said:
To be fair, Whitlock isn't the only one who thinks Evans is a hack. He's been taken to task by lots of people over what is perceived to be shoddy, singled-sourced reporting on stuff like the recruitment of Jamarkus McFarland by Texas (he signed with Oklahoma) and
the Cam Newton scandal.

SI has video of some of the players on its site admitting to the things in the article.

George Dohrmann said they interviewed more than 60 former players, so I guess they all might be lying. But Evans didn't make these accusations up out of thin air.
 
Inky_Wretch said:
Steak Snabler said:
To be fair, Whitlock isn't the only one who thinks Evans is a hack. He's been taken to task by lots of people over what is perceived to be shoddy, singled-sourced reporting on stuff like the recruitment of Jamarkus McFarland by Texas (he signed with Oklahoma) and
the Cam Newton scandal.

SI has video of some of the players on its site admitting to the things in the article.

George Dohrmann said they interviewed more than 60 former players, so I guess they all might be lying. But Evans didn't make these accusations up out of thin air.

I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Kinda like how January Jones is the center of attention of all your posts. Sometimes, I don't even get to your actual post

Luckily for you there usually is no actual post, so you're not wasting valuable time and effort trying to find it. ;)
 
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Steak Snabler said:
Inky_Wretch said:
Steak Snabler said:
To be fair, Whitlock isn't the only one who thinks Evans is a hack. He's been taken to task by lots of people over what is perceived to be shoddy, singled-sourced reporting on stuff like the recruitment of Jamarkus McFarland by Texas (he signed with Oklahoma) and
the Cam Newton scandal.

SI has video of some of the players on its site admitting to the things in the article.

George Dohrmann said they interviewed more than 60 former players, so I guess they all might be lying. But Evans didn't make these accusations up out of thin air.

I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

Has anybody questioned Dohrmann's reporting?
 
Thayer Evans has come a long way since he was blogging community news at the Houston Chronicle only four years ago...

http://blog.chron.com/everythingleaguecity/
 
Steak Snabler said:
I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

I don't see any evidence, from the links you've put on here, of questioning the reporting. It looks like Doyel questioned his opinions and thought he was "smearing" somebody (but Doyel later had to retract a significant part of his original portion). The rest is just a bunch of "oh yeah why didn't you get what Texas had to say in there?" crap.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on what a bunch of delusional fanboys have to say in defense of their school. People might have questioned the conclusions. But it does not look like any serious questions have developed around the reporting.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Baron Scicluna said:
dooley_womack1 said:
He worked his corner, curb-stomping Thayer Evans on that corner. I think Whitlock is pulling a Scicluna, except in his own inflammatory, lower-end-prose manner.

Wait, what?

Not meant perjoratively, just that your posts on the subject focus a lot less on what players and coaches might have been involved in, and more on the perceived institutional rot of the N.C.A.A. Which I think is Whitlock's point, if his screed has a point other than to wale away at Evans.

Gotcha. And it's true, I don't get up in arms about the athletes getting money under the table and women during recruiting. I would, if the landscape was more like it is supposed to be, such as Ivy League and D-III style.
 
Wait, did Whitlock sit on them? 'Cause that thing could crush about anybody.
 
Ed Sherman takes on Whitlock.

http://www.shermanreport.com/jason-whitlock-needs-to-brush-up-on-pulitzer-prize-winner-george-dohrmanns-credentials/
 
LongTimeListener said:
Steak Snabler said:
I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

I don't see any evidence, from the links you've put on here, of questioning the reporting. It looks like Doyel questioned his opinions and thought he was "smearing" somebody (but Doyel later had to retract a significant part of his original portion). The rest is just a bunch of "oh yeah why didn't you get what Texas had to say in there?" crap.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on what a bunch of delusional fanboys have to say in defense of their school. People might have questioned the conclusions. But it does not look like any serious questions have developed around the reporting.

Jimmie Tramel of the Tulsa World has a piece that clearly questions Thayer's "reporting."
 
armageddon said:
LongTimeListener said:
Steak Snabler said:
I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

I don't see any evidence, from the links you've put on here, of questioning the reporting. It looks like Doyel questioned his opinions and thought he was "smearing" somebody (but Doyel later had to retract a significant part of his original portion). The rest is just a bunch of "oh yeah why didn't you get what Texas had to say in there?" crap.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on what a bunch of delusional fanboys have to say in defense of their school. People might have questioned the conclusions. But it does not look like any serious questions have developed around the reporting.

Jimmie Tramel of the Tulsa World has a piece that clearly questions Thayer's "reporting."

This one?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
 
Inky_Wretch said:
armageddon said:
LongTimeListener said:
Steak Snabler said:
I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

I don't see any evidence, from the links you've put on here, of questioning the reporting. It looks like Doyel questioned his opinions and thought he was "smearing" somebody (but Doyel later had to retract a significant part of his original portion). The rest is just a bunch of "oh yeah why didn't you get what Texas had to say in there?" crap.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on what a bunch of delusional fanboys have to say in defense of their school. People might have questioned the conclusions. But it does not look like any serious questions have developed around the reporting.

Jimmie Tramel of the Tulsa World has a piece that clearly questions Thayer's "reporting."

This one?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190

Yes. Noticed it on my twitter feed.
 
Inky_Wretch said:
armageddon said:
LongTimeListener said:
Steak Snabler said:
I didn't say this story isn't true, but the question was whether or not anyone besides Whitlock had questioned Evans' reporting in the past, and many people certainly have.

I don't see any evidence, from the links you've put on here, of questioning the reporting. It looks like Doyel questioned his opinions and thought he was "smearing" somebody (but Doyel later had to retract a significant part of his original portion). The rest is just a bunch of "oh yeah why didn't you get what Texas had to say in there?" crap.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on what a bunch of delusional fanboys have to say in defense of their school. People might have questioned the conclusions. But it does not look like any serious questions have developed around the reporting.

Jimmie Tramel of the Tulsa World has a piece that clearly questions Thayer's "reporting."

This one?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190

"He just said he was with Sports Illustrated, I didn't know it was an interview."

Then you're a ****ing idiot.

You gotta love it when newspapers have to try to justify why they got their asses kicked on a story. The South Florida papers did a bit of that a couple years ago when Robinson wrote the Miami scandal story.
 
But doesn't it bother you at all that this guy's saying Evans never took a note or turned on a recorder? Hell, I was talking to an attorney for a notebook item yesterday, took notes and read back to him twice what I wrote down. I just wanted to be doubly sure I heard him accurately. And that was for a note at the bottom of the story. You're going to quote somebody in a massive investigative piece and you're not going write down or record anything? I've got a problem with that.

Sure, the guy should have figured that when SI walks through the door asking questions, you're on the record. But the reporter, for his own sake, should pull out a notepad or a recorder.
 
NatureBoy said:
But doesn't it bother you at all that this guy's saying Evans never took a note or turned on a recorder? Hell, I was talking to an attorney for a notebook item yesterday, took notes and read back to him twice what I wrote down. I just wanted to be doubly sure I heard him accurately. And that was for a note at the bottom of the story. You're going to quote somebody in a massive investigative piece and you're not going write down or record anything? I've got a problem with that.

Sure, the guy should have figured that when SI walks through the door asking questions, you're on the record. But the reporter, for his own sake, should pull out a notepad or a recorder.

I always let the people with whom I'm speaking know up front whether this is an interview or whether we're just shooting the breeze. That includes the use of a notebook/recorder/etc.

I don't ever assume they get it. I just want to make sure I eliminate any doubt. Why leave yourself open to second-guessing after the fact?

Mizzou: I think we've all encountered people who don't always understand every aspect of dealing with the media. That includes athletes/former athletes. Doesn't mean their effin' idiots. Especially a youth minister who likely hasn't been "interviewed" since he left school.
 
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