Urban Meyer

[LongTimeListener]

Why wouldn't Harbaugh count? It's not like he has never coached in college.

I'd put him above anyone but Meyer and Saban. What he accomplished at Stanford was a miracle.

 

[TigerVols]

Why wouldn't Harbaugh count? It's not like he has never coached in college.

I'd put him above anyone but Meyer and Saban. What he accomplished at Stanford was a miracle.

Championships or GTFO

 

[LongTimeListener]

Good point. You gotta put Chizik up there somewhere.

 

[amraeder]

Why wouldn't Harbaugh count? It's not like he has never coached in college.

I'd put him above anyone but Meyer and Saban. What he accomplished at Stanford was a miracle.

Is what he accomplished at Stanford more impressive than what Briles has done at Baylor? Not sure it was less impressive. Just not sure it was more, either.

 

[Boom_70]

Dantonio, Shaw, Briles, Kelly, and Gundy have to be up there somewhere, as well, right? And is Stoops now this far off the radar?

I think I would take Kevin Sumlin over all those guys.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

That's a fair point about Harbaugh.

My five...

1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Harbaugh
4. Malzahn
5. Briles/Patterson/Sumlin

 

[Dick Whitman]

Oh, yeah, Patterson.

 

[SnarkShark]

1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Peterson
4. Patterson
5. Harbaugh

I like the nostalgic glow on Harbaugh, who went 29-21 at Stanford. He had one good year. Sure, he brought Stanford to prominence, which is ****ing impressive, but I'm not sure he's in the category of the guys who have had consistent success in college just yet.

 

[JackReacher]

No Miles, huh?

 

[da man]

Is what he accomplished at Stanford more impressive than what Briles has done at Baylor? Not sure it was less impressive. Just not sure it was more, either.

Stanford played both sides of the ball.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I like the nostalgic glow on Harbaugh, who went 29-21 at Stanford. He had one good year. Sure, he brought Stanford to prominence, which is ****ing impressive, but I'm not sure he's in the category of the guys who have had consistent success in college just yet.

Well that's just stupid.

Stanford's records the years before Harbaugh arrived: 2-9, 4-7, 4-7, 5-6, 1-11.

They beat USC his first year as 42-point underdogs.

They went 12-1 his final year (in a four-team playoff like this one, I think they would have come out on top, but that's just my opinion).

Then they went 11-2, 12-2 and 11-3 with the staff he built and the recruits he brought in.

 

[SnarkShark]

Well that's just stupid.

Stanford's records the years before Harbaugh arrived: 2-9, 4-7, 4-7, 5-6, 1-11.

They beat USC his first year as 42-point underdogs.

They went 12-1 his final year (in a four-team playoff like this one, I think they would have come out on top, but that's just my opinion).

Then they went 11-2, 12-2 and 11-3 with the staff he built and the recruits he brought in.

Did I not say it was impressive? He built up the program and had one good year. That's great, especially at a place like Stanford, but it's not in the same category as what Saban, Meyer and even Peterson have done.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Did I not say it was impressive? He built up the program and had one good year. That's great, especially at a place like Stanford, but it's not in the same category as what Saban, Meyer and even Peterson have done.

Right. But he also won at San Diego. And he turned around the 49ers.

 

[SnarkShark]

Right. But he also won at San Diego. And he turned around the 49ers.

I knew I should have factored in his Pioneer League success.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I knew I should have factored in his Pioneer League success.

It's just more evidence that he's an outstanding coach. It's not the best evidence.

 

[SnarkShark]

It's just more evidence that he's an outstanding coach. It's not the best evidence.

I think we actually agree with each other. I'm not saying Harbaugh isn't a great coach. He is. He just isn't at the level of the top tier of college coaches yet. He'll have plenty of opportunity to prove it.

 

[LongTimeListener]

And Chris Peterson is a better coach? Hmmmm. You are aware Washington was a game worse with him than with Sark, yes?

 

[SnarkShark]

And Chris Peterson is a better coach? Hmmmm. You are aware Washington was a game worse with him than with Sark, yes?

By your reasoning, it's Sark's players, so it doesn't count.

 

[LongTimeListener]

OK bud.

You're smart.

 

[amraeder]

Stanford played both sides of the ball.

So? Both took doormats to top level programs. Who cares how you get there -by balance or outscoring everyone. Don't care how they skinned the cat. Just that they ended up with a better skinned cat than aloft everyone else.