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[John D. Villarreal]

Anyway, I can go on but more later.

Here are some good fighters and info to Q's above

1.) Brandon Vera is VERY good

2.) Cro Cop will kill most of UFC and left bc he knows he can't beat Fedor - no one can. Fedor is almost superhuman with super fast transitions and is strong from all aspects (kill you on the ground, kill you standing up, big tank of cardio and will push pace)

3.) Chuck has weird style but keeps winning at 37 - awesome for him

4.) I love Tito but needs to get off the "supplements" and wrestle more in fights regardless of what front office says.

5.) Tim Silvia is a goof but wins - he is not that good but good enough. I will give him props in that he does what he needs to do to win and doesn't care what Dana White thinks or if fans boo (he knows that all that matters if he is the champ) & I love that.

6.) Anything can happen in a fight but Cro Cop should kill Silvia

7.) Rampage killed Chuck in Pride but is no longer the same Rampage after his wars with Wandy S and is just being brought in to boost up Chuck (ala Hughes/Gracie). I would love to be wrong here but don't think I am

8.) MMA for me - very tempting as it is getting bigger but honestly not enough money in it and most get very serious lasting injuries or worse. The sport is brutal and that is no joke. If I was younger maybe. Although, if I start training again and think I still have something may do a short run for fun.

John

 

[doubledown68]

Anyway, I can go on but more later.

Here are some good fighters and info to Q's above

1.) Brandon Vera is VERY good

2.) Cro Cop will kill most of UFC and left bc he knows he can't beat Fedor - no one can. Fedor is almost superhuman with super fast transitions and is strong from all aspects (kill you on the ground, kill you standing up, big tank of cardio and will push pace)

3.) Chuck has weird style but keeps winning at 37 - awesome for him

4.) I love Tito but needs to get off the "supplements" and wrestle more in fights regardless of what front office says.

5.) Tim Silvia is a goof but wins - he is not that good but good enough. I will give him props in that he does what he needs to do to win and doesn't care what Dana White thinks or if fans boo (he knows that all that matters if he is the champ) & I love that.

6.) Anything can happen in a fight but Cro Cop should kill Silvia

7.) Rampage killed Chuck in Pride but is no longer the same Rampage after his wars with Wandy S and is just being brought in to boost up Chuck (ala Hughes/Gracie). I would love to be wrong here but don't think I am

8.) MMA for me - very tempting as it is getting bigger but honestly not enough money in it and most get very serious lasting injuries or worse. The sport is brutal and that is no joke. If I was younger maybe. Although, if I start training again and think I still have something may do a short run for fun.

John

I don't know if there is a record for words per post, but you're well on your way to setting it. Are you sure your real name isn't Gregg Eastabrook?

 

[RokSki]

I don't know if there is a record for words per post, but you're well on your way to setting it. Are you sure your real name isn't Gregg Eastabrook?

Well-played, dd, well-played. :)

 

[Mr7134]

Ortiz is a far superior wrestler and wanted to take the match down to the mat. However, Liddell is a far superior puncher and wanted to stay standing. Ortiz spent most of the fight trying to set up Liddell for a takedown. It wasn't just two guys throwing wild haymakers.

Actually Ortiz isn't the superior wrestler. Credentials wise Liddell's wrestling background is stronger than Ortiz's. Styles make fights and Liddell is Ortiz's nightmare opponent.

Liddell's wrestling background, as described in an extract from his bio at "SLO Kickboxing" where he's an instructor. The important part is in bold.

Chuck Liddell is the Master Instructor at SLO Kickboxing. He is currently ranked #1in the world. His martial arts career began at the age of twelve with Koei-Kan Karate today he holds 2 black belts and a national championship title. Chuck started the sport of wrestling in San Marcos High School in Santa Barbara his Sophomore year. He came to Cal Poly University, San Luis Obispo where he was a 4-year starter at the Division 1 Wrestling program. Chuck was also a State Champion in Freestyle Wrestling for California. After his wrestling career, he missed the competition. As fate would have it, he heard of a former professional kickboxer by the name of John "The Train" Hackleman, world-class kickboxer ranked #5 in the world. Chuck went to John's dojo called the "The Pit" in the hills of Arroyo Grande, CA and learned the art of kickboxing and also earned his 2nd black belt in Kajukembo. Chuck went on to become a North American Champion for the IKF, WKA, WKC and the USMTA.

Liddell was a four year starter at a division one wrestling school.

Ortiz had some success at a junior college level, but was never a full time starter when he moved on from Golden West to Cal State Bakersfield, which has a division one program. That's not to say Ortiz is a bad wrestler, getting on a division one program is very impressive, Liddell just has better wrestling, credentials wise.

 

[Stretch15]

I don't know if there is a record for words per post, but you're well on your way to setting it. Are you sure your real name isn't Gregg Eastabrook?

And don't forget - he is real strong, as we can see.

 

[Mr7134]

HBO will be showing some UFC cards. Well, they might be.

It's been well known that the UFC and HBO have been in talks for a long while. When "Showtime" signed a deal with Gary Shaw's new MMA start-up, I guess, they forced HBO's hand. For those who don't know, Gary Shaw is a long time boxing promoter. In fact, he promoted Lewis/Tyson .

Anyway...

From "Ring Talk" a boxing website....

MERCHANT CONFIRMS HBO HAS MMA DEAL!

During a telephone conversation on Christmas with HBO's Larry Merchant, he put things like this. "People look at it (UFC) as real wrestling. And next year HBO and Showtime, they both will test the waters and see if this works. I don't know what Showtime is doing, but we'll do four and see how it goes."

From that it sounds like the UFC have their HBO deal.

Also, something that is relevant to this thread...

I should note that the numbers for UFC 66 aren't in. If they do the projected numbers then that will be the biggest PPV of the year. Also, the UFC card headlined by Matt Hughes taking on GSP that took place in November isn't on the list either. It probably did big numbers as well.

Most PPV buys, JAN-OCT 2006

1. BOX Oscar DeLa Hoya vs. Ricardo Mayorga 925,000
2. UFC Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock 775,000
3. UFC Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn 700,000
4. WWE Wrestlemania 636,000
5. UFC Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie 600,000
6. UFC Chuck Liddell vs. Renato Sobral 500,000
7. UFC Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin 425,000
8. BOX Shane Mosely vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000
9. UFC Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture 400,000
10.BOX Floyd Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375,000