Tim freaking Tebow?

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Really? He's the BEST player in the country?

Hmm...
 
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Rereading his stats, they're pretty impressive. But talk about a system quarterback.

Does this look familiar?

2004 Utah Utes 13 214 317 67.5 2952 32 4 135 631
 
GBNF said:
Rereading his stats, they're pretty impressive. But talk about a system quarterback.

Does this look familiar?

2004 Utah Utes 13 214 317 67.5 2952 32 4 135 631

Utah doesn't play a third of the schedule Fla. plays
 
2-3 in games that mattered this year.
Discussion reopened.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
2-3 in games that mattered this year.
Discussion reopened.

Where were they his fault? I've watched Chris Leak over the last four years throw int after int when it mattered. I can't remember any blatant instances where Tebow blew it. That's astounding for a true sophomore. If Tebow had the defense Leak had last year, they'd been undefeated.
 
Sometimes, your team just loses. I don't think Tebow lost any games for his team; his team just happened to lose.
 
Tebow had a fine season and deserved to win.

I gave up on watching the Heisman show back when Eric Crouch won and said " ... and I also like to thank Wendy's, the sponsor."
 
Write-brained said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
2-3 in games that mattered this year.
Discussion reopened.

Where were they his fault? I've watched Chris Leak over the last four years throw int after int when it mattered. I can't remember any blatant instances where Tebow blew it. That's astounding for a true sophomore. If Tebow had the defense Leak had last year, they'd been undefeated.
Three of his lowest four rated games were in those losses (fourth was a 30-24 win against Mississippi), half his interceptions and his three lowest yardage games were in those losses...

2007 Game Log Passing Rushing
DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
9/1 Western Kentucky W 49-3 13 17 300 76.5 59 3 0 282.94 8 38 4.8 18 1
9/8 Troy W 59-31 18 25 236 72.0 37 3 0 190.90 17 93 5.5 25 2
9/15 Tennessee W 59-20 14 19 299 73.7 49 2 1 230.09 18 61 3.4 18 2
9/22 @Mississippi W 30-24 20 34 261 58.8 37 2 0 142.71 27 166 6.1 13 2
9/29 Auburn L 20-17 20 27 201 74.1 52 1 1 141.42 19 75 3.9 12 1
10/6 @LSU L 28-24 12 26 158 46.2 37 2 1 114.89 16 67 4.2 21 1
10/20 @Kentucky W 45-37 18 26 256 69.2 66 4 0 202.71 20 78 3.9 15 1
10/27 Georgia L 42-30 14 22 236 63.6 40 1 0 168.74 13 -15 -1.2 7 2
11/3 Vanderbilt W 49-22 22 27 281 81.5 40 3 1 198.16 6 35 5.8 22 2
11/10 @South Carolina W 51-31 22 32 304 68.8 55 2 1 162.92 26 120 4.6 17 5
11/17 Florida Atlantic W 59-20 25 34 338 73.5 40 3 1 180.27 11 31 2.8 14 1
11/24 Florida State W 45-12 19 28 262 67.9 40 3 0 181.81 13 89 6.8 23 2
 
Last-second loss to LSU . . . I guess he couldn't stop all those fourth down conversions the Tigers made.

Last-second loss to Auburn . . . Why the hell couldn't he have blocked that winning FG? Heisman winner, my butt!

42-30 loss to Georgia . . . How the hell are you supposed to win if you can only lead your team to 30 points? FRAUD!

Three of his lowest four rated games were in those losses (fourth was a 30-24 win against Mississippi), half his interceptions and his three lowest yardage games were in those losses...

And if he was nothing but a passer, that might be significant.
But he's not, so it isn't.

Ricky Williams had something like 45 yards when Texas lost to Kansas State in 1998.

You could cite examples all day like this if you wanted to . . . including McFadden's pedestrian performances before Arky's season became irrelevant.
 
BTExpress said:
Last-second loss to LSU . . . I guess he couldn't stop all those fourth down conversions the Tigers made.

Last-second loss to Auburn . . . Why the hell couldn't he have blocked that winning FG? Heisman winner, my butt!

42-30 loss to Georgia . . . How the hell are you supposed to win if you can only lead your team to 30 points? FRAUD!


Win the ****ing games.
Period.
If not, if we're giving it to middle of the pack SEC teams, McFadden should have bookends by now.
 
Two out of a gigantic total of six, if I read that unjustified pile of characters correctly, slappy. So only players from unbeaten teams should be considered for the Heisman? So Brennan it is, I guess.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
BTExpress said:
Last-second loss to LSU . . . I guess he couldn't stop all those fourth down conversions the Tigers made.

Last-second loss to Auburn . . . Why the hell couldn't he have blocked that winning FG? Heisman winner, my butt!

42-30 loss to Georgia . . . How the hell are you supposed to win if you can only lead your team to 30 points? FRAUD!


Win the ****ing games.
Period.
If not, if we're giving it to middle of the pack SEC teams, McFadden should have bookends by now.

I'm sorry, when did the Heisman change the designation to "best player on the best team" instead of just "best player in college football" in its rules?

You may not think Tebow was that, and an argument for McFadden is legitimate, but Tebow had a great season even if his team underperformed by typical Gator standards.
 
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