The thing about trolls is ...

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bigpern23

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... if nobody gives them attention, they get bored and leave.

We clearly have several trolls/sock puppets populating the board right now who constantly start inane threads, provoke absurd arguments and generally contribute nothing to the board.

Now, I'm not one for banning anyone from the board. But these trolls are so completely obvious, I don't understand why we keep feeding their attention-***** appetites.

I'm not above the temptation of responding to them. I think I was dumb enough to respond to the Ricky Williams thread in a non-snarky, straightforward (albeit dismissive) manner on Williams' hall chances. Admittedly, that was largely because I had seen earlier this week that Ricky had gained 10,000 yards and I thought to myself, "Boy, 10,000 yards rushing isn't the HOF milestone it used to be."

I have, on more than one occasion, spent 20 minutes typing a response to something stupid one of them has posted. It felt good to write a cogent, reasoned argument about how wrong they were. I felt like my response displayed my intelligence, sports knowledge and my Lloyd Christmas-esque rapist wit.

And then?

I move my cursor off "Post" and clicked the link to Anything Goes or Sports and News, letting my response slip into the ether.

As I finished my response, I would realize that the troll had gotten me to do what he had hoped. He got me to waste minutes of my life responding to something he already knew was patently stupid. I (wisely, I believe) then chose not to give the troll the satisfaction of knowing he had succeeded, that he had achieved his goal.

By not posting my brilliant rebuttals, my SportsJournalists.com persona was not elevated in the eyes of the board members who I respect. I did not expose the troll's utter lack of intellect. I didn't even get a chance to make someone spit their Coke on their computer screen.

But I made the right decision.

I starved the troll of the attention he so desperately sought. The attention he needed so badly he decided turn his attention from his wife, girlfriend, cat, frog or that empty bag of Cheetos he has been holding onto because that night just meant so much to him dammit! He turned his attention instead to his computer, set up an anonymous identity on our board and then crafted 150 words of soul-sucking stupidity in the hopes that someone he will never meet will get frothingly angry about it.

And when we do that, when we give in to that temptation to show how much smarter, funnier and ******* sexier we are than the troll, he gets his wish. He gets that sweet redemption, the knowledge that his meager existence -- subsisting on Red Bull, internet porn and the pure hatred of strangers -- has had an impact on the world. He sees himself as the butterfly who created the hurricane and it feeds his soul.

So, I guess what I'm saying is, we know who the trolls are. They aren't the people with whom we simply disagree. They aren't the ones who love all things Jersey Shore. They are the ones bait us with blatant stupidity. They are obvious. And they are hungry for your attention.

So, please, don't feed the trolls.

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All momentum that was gathered on post 1 of this thread, suddenly fell off the cliff immediately after post 2.
 
You know, Pern, you could just post a pic of a gorilla throwing ****. It'll have the same effect and take less time.
 
Not meant to be a criticism of you, Pern, but I think some people way overthink this. It's a message board. We all get that. This board has worked great over time because of all the different --and some big -- personalities, and the fact that there are some bright-as-all-hell people here who have a gift for communicating on a forum.

Post to your heart's content. It makes the board more interesting and fun. Respond to those you feel like responding to, ignore those whom you don't. There is plenty of bandwidth to go around. And there is something here for most of the regulars, which is why we have such a stable group of regular contributors.

As for "trolling," if you think someone is being a jackass just to be a jackass, there is nothing forcing you to do anything but skip right on by. The moderating crew goes out of its way to give people a long leash. We want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. But eventually, if someone is just clogging up the board with stuff that drags it down, we'll put an end to it, as well as an end to the people who contribute to the mess by continually responding and baiting that person's behavior.

The best way to handle this board is to post on the threads you are interested in and respond to the posts you find worth responding to. You really can't go wrong that way. Which I guess is pretty much what Pern said.
 
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If Raisin Ham's considered a troll, I don't know if I want to come around here anymore.
I also feel it is unnecessary to denigrate anyone's preferences for Red Bull, porn (Internet or otherwise) or hating strangers.
 
You know, I tried it your way, pern. I really did. Figured I'd ignore the troll and it would get bored and go away.

Didn't work. Troll apparently didn't have anything else to do in its angry little world. Plus, there are still just enough idiots out there who think the troll is smart or cutting-edge cool.

Hey, Junkie just came back from his self-imposed exile and scolded me for being mean to the troll. Said we'd probably run this poster off in time, because that's what we do.

Heh. One can only hope.
 
When are we gonna have the thread counting down Junkie to 50,000 posts self-deleted? Anyhoo, Buck, Buck Raiasin Ham surely isn't what pern is referring to.

And Ky, I don't think you fully understood my post to pern. And chef, since doodoo deleted his post, I look like your thread killer
 
dooley_womack1 said:
When are we gonna have the thread counting down Junkie to 50,000 posts self-deleted? Anyhoo, Buck, Buck Raiasin Ham surely isn't what pern is referring to.

I hope people think I was Raisin Ham. I wish I was.
I fake-handled once, many years ago, and it was to commit voter fraud. I have never engaged in any ongoing persona other than my own, which may or may not be considered a troll by some, and I have never participated in an ongoing joke as funny as the mere existence of Raisin Ham.

Welcome back, Raisin Ham. I applaud you, sir/madam.
 
I think we need ilmago back to start a thread on top 10 all time SportsJournalists.com trolls.
 
Buck said:
dooley_womack1 said:
When are we gonna have the thread counting down Junkie to 50,000 posts self-deleted? Anyhoo, Buck, Buck Raiasin Ham surely isn't what pern is referring to.

I hope people think I was Raisin Ham. I wish I was.
I fake-handled once, many years ago, and it was to commit voter fraud. I have never engaged in any ongoing persona other than my own, which may or may not be considered a troll by some, and I have never participated in an ongoing joke as funny as the mere existence of Raisin Ham.

Welcome back, Raisin Ham. I applaud you, sir/madam.

Ha! I knew it! Voter fraud was only possible explanation for Seinfeld winning over the Simpsons!

Knew it!
 
You guys are sad amateurs at this Internet thing if this is the level of trolling it takes to get to you.

There have been times an SJ poster or two has gotten to me, and more power to them for it, but it takes a hell of a lot more than just posting an inane opinion or two.
 
bigpern, good post. I agree with what you said. My only issue is this: You encourage people to not feed the trolls, yet you do so in a thread you started about trolls. Aren't you feeding the trolls if you start a thread about them?
 
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Buck said:
dooley_womack1 said:
When are we gonna have the thread counting down Junkie to 50,000 posts self-deleted? Anyhoo, Buck, Buck Raiasin Ham surely isn't what pern is referring to.

I hope people think I was Raisin Ham. I wish I was.
I fake-handled once, many years ago, and it was to commit voter fraud. I have never engaged in any ongoing persona other than my own, which may or may not be considered a troll by some, and I have never participated in an ongoing joke as funny as the mere existence of Raisin Ham.

Welcome back, Raisin Ham. I applaud you, sir/madam.

Ha! I knew it! Voter fraud was only possible explanation for Seinfeld winning over the Simpsons!

Knew it!

I knew that would draw you out, jacknut.
 

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