The return of **** rock?

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This Lips of an Angel song is No. 1 in Canada. Also, this band sounds and looks terrible... big hair, insipid lyrics, Trixter-esque guitar solo breaking up what is, by very definition, an 80s power ballad somehow come back to life. I mean, really. I know music is cycical, but can we be spared the return of Slaughter and Firehouse?

P.S. If you happen to like Hinder, my apologies. You are a terrible human being.
 
Thank God, Jones.

I saw this video for the first time a couple weeks ago while I was on the phone with the bf. I had him turn on the TV. The lead singer looks like he's channeling a wussy Perry Farrell with all the twitching and the weird hand motions.

And what's up with his hair? It's like he parts it on the side and combs it across his forehead.
 
**** rock??? Those 80s hair bands hardly define **** rock, more like ... uh, er ... suck **** rock!

Free, the Stones, Led Zeppelin and T-Rex are **** rock. All others are swimming in their wake.
 
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It brightens my day to see all the Hinder hate in here.

God-awful band that is on the radio here non-stop, no matter what station I turn to. There's just nothing I can find that seems genuine about them. They're the darlings of adult contemporary radio, which caters to the middle-aged white folks with children, yet it wasn't even a year ago that they started getting played on alternative stations with "Get Stoned," which includes such fine lyrics as:

Lets go home and get stoned
We could end up makin love instead of misery
Go home and get stoned
Cause the sex is so much better when you're mad at me

and...

The break up is worth the make up sex you're givin me
Lets hash it out
Cause your bitchin and your yellin don't mean anything

Classy.
 
In an interview by Rolling Stone a few months back, one of the band members said "I saw OK Go on the Video Music Awards doing their treadmill routine...that's not rock and roll."

Fantastic.

Rock and roll, a musical form that has its roots in rebellion yet a history of accepting the outcasts, has apparently become the domain of the cooler-than-thou gym class morons. Apparently, there is only one route to true rock and roll, and the boys in Hinder, God bless 'em, are here to show us the way.

A subsequent interview had one of the members talking about the band's phenomenal success in the midwest, and he held forth to say that the band was straightforward and no-frills, something appreciated by midwesterners and southerners.

Folks talk often of big-city elitism. But isn't this kind of "we're more real than the city boys" garbage also a kind of elitism? And besides, tractor pulls are straightforward, too.

Either or, enjoy it while it lasts, gentlemen.
 
I'm a terrible person. I like Hinder and find the lead singer hot (although I could do without the odd hand gestures).

And BYH had no clue who this band was until I mentioned them while we were IMing a week or so ago.
 
Kaylee said:
A subsequent interview had one of the members talking about the band's phenomenal success in the midwest, and he held forth to say that the band was straightforward and no-frills, something appreciated by midwesterners and southerners.

No matter what act says that, it always comes out sounding like, "You have to be a moron to like our music."

Hinder, and their record company, certainly are bringing back one thing -- releasing a rocker as your first single, then following it with a power ballad.
 
Bob Cook said:
Kaylee said:
A subsequent interview had one of the members talking about the band's phenomenal success in the midwest, and he held forth to say that the band was straightforward and no-frills, something appreciated by midwesterners and southerners.

No matter what act says that, it always comes out sounding like, "You have to be a moron to like our music."

Hinder, and their record company, certainly are bringing back one thing -- releasing a rocker as your first single, then following it with a power ballad.

Sorta like "We don't appeal to critics, we appeal to the real people out there."

Then and therefore, if you smell garbage, you're just being elitist.
 
Kaylee said:
Bob Cook said:
Kaylee said:
A subsequent interview had one of the members talking about the band's phenomenal success in the midwest, and he held forth to say that the band was straightforward and no-frills, something appreciated by midwesterners and southerners.

No matter what act says that, it always comes out sounding like, "You have to be a moron to like our music."

Hinder, and their record company, certainly are bringing back one thing -- releasing a rocker as your first single, then following it with a power ballad.

Sorta like "We don't appeal to critics, we appeal to the real people out there."

Then and therefore, if you smell garbage, you're just being elitist.

To be fair, sometimes the slack-jawed yokels are right. For example, fans recognized the genius of Eddie Van Halen far before critics did. Critics HATED Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin for a long time. I seem to remember some Rolling Stone review book, pre-grunge, that had every Sabbath album with one star.
 
Dear Hinder,
Nickelback has already done this. And Nickelback sucks.
Love,
Cosmo
 
Bob Cook said:
Kaylee said:
Bob Cook said:
Kaylee said:
A subsequent interview had one of the members talking about the band's phenomenal success in the midwest, and he held forth to say that the band was straightforward and no-frills, something appreciated by midwesterners and southerners.

No matter what act says that, it always comes out sounding like, "You have to be a moron to like our music."

Hinder, and their record company, certainly are bringing back one thing -- releasing a rocker as your first single, then following it with a power ballad.

Sorta like "We don't appeal to critics, we appeal to the real people out there."

Then and therefore, if you smell garbage, you're just being elitist.

To be fair, sometimes the slack-jawed yokels are right. For example, fans recognized the genius of Eddie Van Halen far before critics did. Critics HATED Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin for a long time. I seem to remember some Rolling Stone review book, pre-grunge, that had every Sabbath album with one star.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

As I'm fond of saying when it comes to my snob parents, yes, fine wine and good food is great, but so is Waffle House at 3 a.m. after a night of drinking cheap beer.

I think it's safe to say, though, that we won't be waking up a decade from now and realizing that we missed out on the genius that was Hinder. There's a difference between being panned for being different and being panned for being pablum.

I wouldn't have a problem with this band so much - there's a lot of crap out there, after all - if it wasn't for their attitude toward the whole thing. Everything I get from these corn-fed boozy roustabouts is that they're somehow here to SAVE rock and take it back to a simpler, more straightforward time.

Excuse me? What, a simpler, more straightforward time before Nickelback? Disturbed? Hoobastank?

Hinder seems to be on a crusade to take rock back from the wussies, even though it's the "wussies" who made rock what it was to begin with. Both the punk and metal movements, and later the (unfairly maligned) grunge movement, were made up of kids who didn't identify with the jocularity of the bands that Hinder draws on for inspiration.

From slicked back hair and leather jackets, to mohawks and piercings, rock has initially been a means of rebellion against social norms and fashions. Eventually, this rebellion eats itself (see the proliferation of "emo" fashion), but the initial movement is always about embracing the outcasts in some form or fashion.

And now here comes Hinder, with this kind of macho "This is real rock" attitude, while the whole point of the art form is to escape from that sort of thinking.

Plus they suck balls.
 
Bob Cook said:
To be fair, sometimes the slack-jawed yokels are right. For example, fans recognized the genius of Eddie Van Halen far before critics did. Critics HATED Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin for a long time. I seem to remember some Rolling Stone review book, pre-grunge, that had every Sabbath album with one star.

I have that book right here. It was the second edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide and it came out in 1983. It gave every Sabbath album one star and savaged them in a one-paragraph overview.

It gave the first three Van Halen albums three stars and Fair Warning two, with Dave Marsh noting that it looked like the well was running dry. Hmmm, the next year they brought out 1984, the best album of any incarnation of Van Halen.

And plenty of critics had a love-hate relationship with Zeppelin, especially Rolling Stone which inexplicably put them on the cover earlier this year.
 
I vigorously dispute that '1984' was the best Van Halen album. I think it's the worst album put out by the band's original incarnation, and no other incarnations are worthy of mention.
I don't know anything about Hinder. I hated hair/glam metal the last time it came around. Please tell me it's not returning.
 

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