The cowardly thread

[joe_schmoe]

Since it was suggested this be it's own thread. Here it is:

Would any of you ever call coach cowardly for following the rules?

(For more details see the Odessa SE job thread)

 

[Jake_Taylor]

The ACC track meet could have caused quite a stir in West Texas.

Virginia Tech edged U.Va. at ACC men's track with a lean and a protest

 

[Human_Paraquat]

The rules are the rules. The argument in the Odessa thread is that the coach was cowardly because it was an end-of-the-season play. So if the same play had happened in the first inning, or in a regular-season game, the coach's challenge is braver?

The only cowardly thing the coach could have done was not challenge the play because he was worried about backlash from the holier-than-thou newspaper guy with an itchy Twitter finger.

 

[ChrisLong]

There was a situation about 3 years ago affecting a high school baseball playoff game.
Team A, the host, wins, something like 7-5.
Team B parents, who showed up early, saw a Team A player throwing a wiffle ball to a teammate who was swinging a bat. They did it a few times in the outfield during warmups.
After the game, Team B protests to the sanctioning office because there is no batting practice allowed on game day. One of the parents recorded the wiffle ball action and filed it with the sanctioning board.
Team A is disqualified. Team B takes its place in the next round.
Team B wins its next game. Players celebrate by attempting to douse the coach with Gatorade, but the bucket is actually filled with wiffle balls.
Team B coach is criticized far and wide for a petty protest that really had no bearing on the game that his team lost fair and square on the field. Team B parents back up the coach.
Team B principal fires Team B coach, who is an alum of the high school and the baseball team and works in the school district as an elementary school teacher.

 

[cjericho]

That's pretty much a crock of ****. It is beyond asinine to make a rule saying no batting practice on game day. But since there is such a rule they should have argued it wasn't batting practice. That is nowhere near the same as a coach appealing a runner missing a base.

 

[Big Circus]

The ACC track meet could have caused quite a stir in West Texas.

Virginia Tech edged U.Va. at ACC men's track with a lean and a protest

As the official SJ UVA correspondent (tm), I have to say that that protest was absolute bull****. The UVA jumper was leading the competition the entire way, from his first jump through the end of the competition, and his original jump was judged by eye to be good. Believing that, he went for personal bests on his other two jumps and fouled on each. After the competition had ended, the Hokies (who did not have a competitor in the triple jump) protested that he had fouled on the first jump, and Scott (the jumper) was DQd. I know "cowardly" is a laugh line on this thread, but I certainly think "chicken****" applies when you wait until 15 minutes after the event ends to file a protest.

 

[SnarkShark]

I wouldn't have fired the writer for tweeting that, but I would have made him apologize. And if he did it again, I'd fire him.

You can't call a coach cowardly as a news reporter. On top of it, he's wrong.

OK, maybe I would fire him.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I wouldn't have fired the writer for tweeting that, but I would have made him apologize. And if he did it again, I'd fire him.

You can't call a coach cowardly as a news reporter. On top of it, he's wrong.

OK, maybe I would fire him.

That was staggering to me, that someone thinks coaches are being big meanypants jerks for insisting players touch all the bases on their way around them.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Is this thread cowardly or is about cowardly things?

 

[User 11148]

That was staggering to me, that someone thinks coaches are being big meanypants jerks for insisting players touch all the bases on their way around them.

Seriously. I've come across some scalding hot takes 'round here ... that's China Syndrome territory.

 

[Gator]

You don't fire him. You make him call the damn coach and write something that backs up his statement. You want to use your platform to call someone out on something. Talk to the person you called out and write something longer than 140 characters. Talk to the opposing coach and get his thoughts. This is what we do. We make observations, we write about them and talk to people who are involved. Maybe, just maybe, the writer sees how wrong it was and takes a different tack.

 

[Johnny Dangerously]

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[SnarkShark]

You don't fire him. You make him call the damn coach and write something that backs up his statement. You want to use your platform to call someone out on something. Talk to the person you called out and write something longer than 140 characters. Talk to the opposing coach and get his thoughts. This is what we do. We make observations, we write about them and talk to people who are involved. Maybe, just maybe, the writer sees how wrong it was and takes a different tack.

Write something that backs his statement that the coach is cowardly? That's a terrible idea.

 

[Gator]

Write something that backs his statement that the coach is cowardly? That's a terrible idea.

And your suggestion?

 

[SnarkShark]

And your suggestion?

I wouldn't have fired the writer for tweeting that, but I would have made him apologize. And if he did it again, I'd fire him.

You can't call a coach cowardly as a news reporter. On top of it, he's wrong.

OK, maybe I would fire him.

 

[Gator]

We can agree to disagree.

 

[hondo]

There was a situation about 3 years ago affecting a high school baseball playoff game.
Team A, the host, wins, something like 7-5.
Team B parents, who showed up early, saw a Team A player throwing a wiffle ball to a teammate who was swinging a bat. They did it a few times in the outfield during warmups.
After the game, Team B protests to the sanctioning office because there is no batting practice allowed on game day. One of the parents recorded the wiffle ball action and filed it with the sanctioning board.
Team A is disqualified. Team B takes its place in the next round.
Team B wins its next game. Players celebrate by attempting to douse the coach with Gatorade, but the bucket is actually filled with wiffle balls.
Team B coach is criticized far and wide for a petty protest that really had no bearing on the game that his team lost fair and square on the field. Team B parents back up the coach.
Team B principal fires Team B coach, who is an alum of the high school and the baseball team and works in the school district as an elementary school teacher.

Who the **** doesn't allow BP on the day of a game? That's beyond belief.

 

[ChrisLong]

Who the **** doesn't allow BP on the day of a game? That's beyond belief.

It has been a rule in the CIF Southern Section forever. It gained notoriety many years ago when the commissioner of the CIF drove past a high school on his way to the office one morning and saw the baseball team taking batting practice at 7 a.m. before a playoff game. He booted them from the playoffs.