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... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.
 
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

What was his mistake with Kobe? Not knocking the crap out of him?
 
Ace said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

What was his mistake with Kobe? Not knocking the crap out of him?

LOL... he hasn't elaborated... yet....
 
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.
 
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.
 
You know what's interesting?
In Orlando and in LA, Anfernee Holloway and Kobe Bryant never won a damn thing after Shaquille left. In Miami, he gets there, and Dwyane Wade turns into Michael Jordan in three years. Is it possible that his size and strength makes everyone else better?
Of course, Penny was a mute and Kobe's still a ****.
 
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.

Was he the same player in 04-05 that he was in 03-04? I don't think so.
 
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.

Was he the same player in 04-05 that he was in 03-04? I don't think so.
Wait a sec... he was MVP runner-up. Should have won.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
You know what's interesting?
In Orlando and in LA, Anfernee Holloway and Kobe Bryant never won a damn thing after Shaquille left. In Miami, he gets there, and Dwyane Wade turns into Michael Jordan in three years. Is it possible that his size and strength makes everyone else better?
Of course, Penny was a mute and Kobe's still a ****.

No doubt about that.

Shaq could be MVP ... legitimately... every year.

I think he REALLY got jobbed for that last year.
 
I hate the whole idea of telling a guy when he should quit doing something he loves, but isn't this the best time for Alonzo to take it home?
 
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.

Was he the same player in 04-05 that he was in 03-04? I don't think so.
Wait a sec... he was MVP runner-up. Should have won.

OK, my bad. Should have looked up the statistics first before I made that argument.

But I think Shaq knows now what he didn't know then -- that being second banana on a title team is better than being the No. 1 player on one that doesn't win.

And while Dwayne Wade had a sensational playoff run, can we get off this Jordan-esque comparison? As an individual player he's not even better than LeBron or Kobe.
 
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.

Was he the same player in 04-05 that he was in 03-04? I don't think so.
Wait a sec... he was MVP runner-up. Should have won.

OK, my bad. Should have looked up the statistics first before I made that argument.

But I think Shaq knows now what he didn't know then -- that being second banana on a title team is better than being the No. 1 player on one that doesn't win.

And while Dwayne Wade had a sensational playoff run, can we get off this Jordan-esque comparison? As an individual player he's not even better than LeBron or Kobe.

But he has something BronBron doesn't have...a ring.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
I hate the whole idea of telling a guy when he should quit doing something he loves, but isn't this the best time for Alonzo to take it home?

No, why should he? He's playing very well, and reportedly his health situation is good. Why quit?
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
I hate the whole idea of telling a guy when he should quit doing something he loves, but isn't this the best time for Alonzo to take it home?

**** Zo, an asshole's asshole.
 
KYSportsWriter said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
Freelance Hack said:
Hole_Balata_Love said:
... just admitted that he made mistakes with his relationships with Kobe and Jackson, and that he didn't want to make the same mistakes with "Mr. Wade."

I thought that was pretty startlingly honest.

Translation: Had he accepted that his skills were indeed waning and that Kobe's were just blossoming, Shaq would now have five rings instead of four.

Dude... Shaq's skills weren't waning in 2003-04.

Was he the same player in 04-05 that he was in 03-04? I don't think so.
Wait a sec... he was MVP runner-up. Should have won.

OK, my bad. Should have looked up the statistics first before I made that argument.

But I think Shaq knows now what he didn't know then -- that being second banana on a title team is better than being the No. 1 player on one that doesn't win.

And while Dwayne Wade had a sensational playoff run, can we get off this Jordan-esque comparison? As an individual player he's not even better than LeBron or Kobe.

But he has something BronBron doesn't have...a ring.

BronBron will have the blingbling soon enough. God, I can't believe I actually wrote that drivel. Shoot. Me. Now.

Seriously, LeBron will win multiple rings, and like Jordan, he won't need a talented big man to help him.
 
I don't know how I feel about Shaq. On one hand, I think he whines an awful lot. On the other, the guy takes an absolute pounding night in and night out and very rarely does he let the **** get to him. Also, he took the low road a couple of times during that whole Kobe situation, but for the most part, the guy did his best to not to throw **** back and forth. He's a talent, especially when he actually puts forth some effort. But all the coasting, particularly during the regular season, kinda leaves me put-off.

As for Kobe, he's just a selfish ****. Had he just left **** alone, he and Shaq would still be winning rings. But no, couldn't do it. Couldn't share the spotlight. Couldn't bear to have someone else getting his pub. He's got what he wanted now and I hope he never wises up. I hope he continues to run off every decent player the Lakers sign and he spends his life averaging 40 a game and leaving the playoffs in the first or second round. Or even better, I hope he never sees the playoffs again.

Lebron, somehow, at a very young age, seems to be much, much more mature and a helluva lot smarter than Kobe. Lebron will win rings, because he's smart enough to realize he can't do the **** by himself and he works every night to get his teammates involved. How this team-player concept has managed to slip by Kobe, I don't know.
 

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