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I feel awfully fortunate. There was a period of about nine months when I started my job that I felt a money crunch. After that, it's been comfortable. I'd like to think i would have stuck with this anyway. I don't know.
 
85bears said:
Is money that important when you're getting to do what you love? It's not like we're starving. Plenty of people are far worse off.

Doing what you love and making a living wage are not mutually exclusive.
 
I'm a little surprised that a college-educated person performing a professional, skilled task makes so little.
But, I see it quite a bit. When we have an opening, I see first-hand the salary ranges across the country.
 
fishwrapper said:
I'm a little surprised that a college-educated person performing a professional, skilled task makes so little.
But, I see it quite a bit. When we have an opening, I see first-hand the salary ranges across the country.

It's a seller's market in a profession that never paid well in the first place.
 
expendable said:
fishwrapper said:
I'm a little surprised that a college-educated person performing a professional, skilled task makes so little.
But, I see it quite a bit. When we have an opening, I see first-hand the salary ranges across the country.

It's a seller's market in a profession that never paid well in the first place.

It's true. So, true.
I was speaking to a group of fellows/merits (it's a program our chain has without getting too specific). It's a group of well-schooled, well-educated applicants. (Well-schooled and well-educated are not the same, but I digress).
Anyhow, our chain places them among our papers, pays them, sees how well they do. It's actually a wonderful program, and they by the time they get to me their numbers have been dwindled from thousands to dozens.
It was a Question and Answer session. I enjoy them. And, at this point, I'm pretty prepared for what's coming.
I consider myself fairly hip. Still fairly young. So, I still have a remote connection to the kids.
But, as always, I'm frank. I'm as honest as I can be. I'm not a dream smasher. But, these days every kid thinks they're the next Wilbon or Kornheiser.
One young lady stood up. She made it clear her in an earlier session her ambitions. Which were quite, um, ambitious. Which is fine.
She asked a question. Which I forget. But, it was framed around a statement, which I will never forget.
She said there isn't a first-year journalism job in America that pays more than the cost of the last year of her BA.
I was amazed. So amazed I started asking others in the group. There were quite a few in the group who would fall into this precarious situation.
The session moderator was upset, but I was intrigued. Usually that's all that matters. ;)
 
19 years (Jesus Christ, where did the ****ing time go? At least I don't have that dream anymore where I have a final for a class I forgot to drop) — 43-45K, depending on bonuses. And the admiration and adoration of my publisher and vice president. For what that's worth.
 
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TrooperBari said:
Riddick said:
I know this discussion has been raised before, but what's a decent salary? i remember someone saying that 10k plus your age is respectable. yes/no?

"Decent" is awfully subjective. It largely depends on where you live and what kind of lifestyle you want to lead. $35K will last you a lot longer in Casper, Wyo., than in Chicago.

Salary is all relative to where you live. I made $60K working my ass off with lousy hours in New England, my wife made $62K working five days a week, and we were able to afford a 900-square-foot house in a working-class neighborhood. I make close to $40K now working about one-third as hard at a weekly, my wife makes $50K working three days a week, and we have a PAID FOR 3,000 square-foot home that cost about $100,000 less than the home in New England would cost today, as well as a weekend home on the Great Lakes, where we go about every other weekend.

More leisure time, as the card commercial said = priceless.
 
fishwrapper said:
She said there isn't a first-year journalism job in America that pays more than the cost of the last year of her BA.

Wow. Not surprised, but ... wow.
 
7 years. Major beat, $30,000 New England. I think I just decided to quit. This is bull****.
 
jfs1000 said:
7 years. Major beat, $30,000 New England. I think I just decided to quit. This is bull****.

30K doesn't go very far in New England.
 
I always figured you made decent money at a bigger paper. Like writing for a top 10 paper or something. I heard columnists at places like that make good money and beat writers aren't too shabby.

My fiance is a nurse....she already makes more money than me and she's just an LPN.
 
Danny Noonan said:
More leisure time, as the card commercial said = priceless.

That's not an absolute, either, although more believe it is than don't.

But there are situations where you look forward to going to work, even with its ups and downs. I still find that if I have any more than a week off, I'm itching to get back in the seat.
 
No offense, but I roll my eyes whenever I read the "why complain if you love what you are doing" theory. Just because you love something doesn't mean you should work terrible hours for low wages. Time is the most precious thing we have on this earth. We should be compensated fairly for what we give.
 
Hmmm, what to think? I'm in the 21-25 range and it's interesting to see that nine are paid below $60,000 and nine paid above $60,000. Unfortunately, I'm not in the latter category.
 
silentbob said:
No offense, but I roll my eyes whenever I read the "why complain if you love what you are doing" theory. Just because you love something doesn't mean you should work terrible hours for low wages. Time is the most precious thing we have on this earth. We should be compensated fairly for what we give.

Why the "why complain if you love what you are doing" theory is valid? A day with people who hate what they are doing would answer that question.
 
shotglass said:
silentbob said:
No offense, but I roll my eyes whenever I read the "why complain if you love what you are doing" theory. Just because you love something doesn't mean you should work terrible hours for low wages. Time is the most precious thing we have on this earth. We should be compensated fairly for what we give.

Why the "why complain if you love what you are doing" theory is valid? A day with people who hate what they are doing would answer that question.

So will a week of eating rice and beans.
 
buckweaver said:
fishwrapper said:
She said there isn't a first-year journalism job in America that pays more than the cost of the last year of her BA.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the statement, this is utter bull****. I don't know where this took place, but my last semester of undergrad cost, like, $10,000. I made well more than twice that my first year as a pro. And I realize out-of-state tuition is pretty bad, but the average starting salary for a reporter is somewhere in the $25,000 range.

Again, I apologize if I've misunderstood something, but if this person went to a school that charges more than $25,000 per year and studied journalism, well, she deserves what's coming to her.
 
25K for an out-of-state education isn't much.... You have to factor in room and board and you're easily at 25K.
 
Want the specific example?
She went to USC.

Expenses
Tuition and fees: $35,810
Room board: $10,858

Here's some reference material if you don't further believe me:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_1328_brief.php

There were applicants from Northwestern and Columbia in the class, too. A couple from American University. Furthermore, she said "year" not "semester." Anyhow, thanks for calling "bull****."
 

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