Roulette wheels suck

[Claws for Concern]

I'm OK with roulette. I usually play $40 worth (after I've won at blackjack) and I try to hang in there. I always bet on the 0/00 split but I have enough numbers I always play to at least hang in there for awhile.

 

[poindexter]

Accountant: Let me get this straight: you took all the money you made franchising your name and bet it against the Harlem Globetrotters?

Krusty: I thought the Generals were due!

 

[poindexter]

There is a very good reason why all the casinos have taken to using those displays which show you the last 20 spins. And its ot because it gives the player an edge.

I honestly don't understand what that means. What are you saying here?

People see that red has come up five times in a row and put their money on black not realizing that each spin resets the odds. They think black has to be more PROBABLE because it hasn't come up in five spins. Not true.

The false assumption leads to more action and more profit for the casino.

Yeah, I get the concept. I couldn't understand that "ot" meant "not" and it threw me off.

 

[G-Spot]

I love this thread because it confirms every misconception about roulette.

I've seen people with sheets of paper 200 numbers long with complex lines and equations and whatever sit down at roulette wheels and lose tons of money. They'll wait for the spin and try to calculate at what number the ball was snapped then throw money at numbers that correspond with what their paper says. Sure they'll hit every once in a while and proclaim victory over the casino. I watched a guy hit $7,000 in two spins at the Baton Rouge casino one night then **** it all away and then some over the next half hour because he thought he had it figured out.

Me? I just bet the same 5 numbers everytime and double my bet when I hit a number. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I call it a 'system' only because it's the way I play. No guarantees.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

You should take a long look at the idiots noting every banker/player/tie win at the
baccarat tables.

 

[Rufino]

Monte Carlo hotel in LV has wheel with only single "O".

Not so harsh.

Believe the minimum play is $20 or $25 per spin, however.

The single worst gambling night I have ever had involved the single 0 wheel at the Monte Carlo. The wheel served that one 0 4 times in 6 spins and 6 in 15. I don't play zeroes - ouch. The overall advice here is correct - stay away from roulette unless you just feel like fooling around and not having to strategize at all. If you do play it, play it at the Vegas Hard Rock where the half-assed dealers will forget to even clear all the bets sometimes because they're staring at all the big fake racks on display walking around the small casino.

 

[poindexter]

I sat next to a guy wearing a "You're with Me, Leather" t-shirt at the Treasure Island sportsbook two weeks ago.

 

[Chef]

I sat next to a guy wearing a "You're with Me, Leather" t-shirt at the Treasure Island sportsbook two weeks ago.

I think Berman was out there then.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

The Martingale system works every time -- as long as you have an infinite amount of money. It tells you that if you lose, just double your bet until you win it back. You'll eventually win. The problem is, the math becomes so high so fast, there's no way you can cover your losses, expecially since casino limits will hit you.

Say you start off betting $5. You lose. Bet $10 to win it back. Lose. Bet $20. Lose. Bet $40. Lose. Bet $80. Lose. Bet $160. Lose. Bet $320. Lose. Bet $640 -- ooops, except you can't because the table limit is probably $500.

But even if it wasn't, you bet $640 and lose. Now you have to bet $1,280 on your ninth bet. What happens if you lose four more times in a row? You're betting thousands, all just to win back that initial $5 you lost.

 

[Buck]

The Martingale system works every time -- as long as you have an infinite amount of money. It tells you that if you lose, just double your bet until you win it back. You'll eventually win. The problem is, the math becomes so high so fast, there's no way you can cover your losses, expecially since casino limits will hit you.

Say you start off betting $5. You lose. Bet $10 to win it back. Lose. Bet $20. Lose. Bet $40. Lose. Bet $80. Lose. Bet $160. Lose. Bet $320. Lose. Bet $640 -- ooops, except you can't because the table limit is probably $500.

But even if it wasn't, you bet $640 and lose. Now you have to bet $1,280 on your ninth bet. What happens if you lose four more times in a row? You're betting thousands, all just to win back that initial $5 you lost.

It's a common mistake to gamble with too small of a roll, but that's just crazy.

 

[Satchel Pooch]

As far as the original point of you can't believe the wheel hitting 6 or 7 or 8 reds in a row ... when I go to Las Vegas for a weekend, I see that on the roulette displays twice an hour. Nothing unreal there. Playing poker online is bad enough. Roulette ... yow!

 

[farmerjerome]

Re: Gambling sucks

Wheel has no memory.

Martingale is crystal meth of "systems".

Gambling doesn't suck. Bad approaches do.

The roulette wheel, I guess, is just pissing your money away. Those two little green squares guarantee that you can't win in the long run.

Tell that to Dr. J. He lost $100 bucks one night playing. On his last spin, I begged him to split 0/00.

He didn't, it came up.

Men. ::)

 

[bigpern23]

I once saw red hit 19 times in a row. No joke.

That said, if I play roulette, I often go with the streak, not against it. If you keep betting with it -- and still playing just the original bet (removing your winnings each roll) -- you often do pretty well.

Also, there's no truth to the rumor that wheels do not have tendencies. In fact, each wheel has certain numbers that are more likely to come up simply because of imperfections in the surface. I read a story about a family from Monte Carlo (the actual city, not the casino) who got banned from every casino there and in Vegas because they figured it out.

They would stand at the tables for hours every day (actually, they rotated between them) marking down which numbers they saw hit at which tables. They did this for a while (I forget how long) and figured out that certain numbers hit more often than others. When they were ready, they went in, bet on those same say seven numbers every time and raked in millions.

Most casinos had no idea how they were doing it, so they were simply banned, but one in Vegas eventually realized how they did it and, rather than banning them, they changed which wheels were at which tables. The family lost a lot of money that day, but had still profited millions by the time they were done.

 

[playthrough]

What kills me in roulette is "that guy" who has a pile of chips and covers about 25 different numbers every time. He'll hit one with five units on it, get 175 units in return, then take darn near all of it and spread it out all over the layout again. Eventually he'll have 2-3 consecutive spins miss his action completely, and he's broke. Insane.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Re the Martingale: If the losing streak doesn't get you, the table limits will.

 

[bigpern23]

Re the Martingale: If the losing streak doesn't get you, the table limits will.

And if the table limits don't, the hookers will. I mean, uh, yeah ...

 

[imjustagirl2]

Go for blackjack instead. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee.

I miss casinos.