Obama's speech - tremendous

[sportschick]

It was a great speech... Hardly stunning that everybody here thinks it's the equivalent of "I Have a Dream..."

Well, it's a respite from a guy who can barely string a sentence together.

And who thinks that the more money you have the better you are.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

To say nothing of the Republican alternative, who hasn't given any indication that he really understands much of anything at all.

 

[Chi City 81]

It was a great speech... Hardly stunning that everybody here thinks it's the equivalent of "I Have a Dream..."

Has someone made that comparison yet?

No ... but ... Mizzou ... is ... going ... to ... post ... whatever ... he ... wants ... to ... post ... facts ... be ... damned.

 

[Chi City 81]

Rush Limbaugh: "[Obama has] class envy, class warfare and a great misunderstanding of basic economics.”

Now we know where flopflipper gets his talking points.

Learn to think for yourself. It's not that difficult. Foof.

 

[GoochMan]

I usually read these threads without posting, but I must say this:

That was an outstanding speech. MLK's was better; I agree with Inky on that point. But this is the kind of speech that has not been made for the better part of 40 years, IMHO.

I am a Obama supporter. I think he did what he had to do here. Having Rev. Wright as a spiritual supporter is his history; this is the man who brought him to Chrisitanity after all. Having Wright as part of his campaign was, again IMHO, a big mistake--one that in the past could have derailed him. I guess it still could.

This was his big moment. My wife and I agreed: fair or not, he had to do this. If he can't unite a majority behind him now, when he's facing criticism during a primary, he's not ready...even if I believe he is.

This was a big test. He passed. My God, did he pass.

Now he could still lose his shot at the White House, that is true. But 'it's all out on the table' now, so to speak. In my opinion, this is now America's test.

If Obama wins, the nation passes the test. If Obama loses because not enough believe in his experience, or don't agree with his policies; if he loses because not enough believe that he'll lead the country through what will be a very rough economic period, or if he loses because not enough agree with his foreign policy; if it's for any substantive reason...the nation still passes the test.

If Obama loses the nomination, or the presidency, because of Reverend Wright, the nation fails the test. Hell, if we as a nation vote against McCain because of his spiritual advisers, we fail.

'People get the government they deserve'. Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

WFW, Gooch.

 

[alleyallen]

Well said, Gooch. Now if we could only convince others of that same thing.

 

[jagtrader]

I don't think this speech will be well-recieved in Central Pennsylvania, for example, where Obama is expected to fare poorly. I don't think it changes much of anything in the minds of the voters. Supporters will think it's fabulous and detractors will think it's somehow biased against whites. Hopefully, some will recognize his political bravery and realize that his opponents don't have a clue what it's like to live as a normal citizen in this country.

 

[the_lorax]

I'm a McCain supporter, but just from reading it, that sounded like a fantastic speech. He said what he needed to say, hit the points he needed to hit, and didn't come off sounding like a schmooze in the meantime.
I'd still rather have a president who admits when he doesn't know everything about everything than one who can blow your hat off with his speaking but does it with mostly abstract ideals.

 

[Ace]

I have preferred Hillary because I she has a broad knowledge of how things work, what needs to be done and isn't afraid to roll up her sleeves and get things done.

That speech, though, really is tremendous. I am most impressed with how Obama took a negative -- crazy black preacher hates white folks -- turned it into a positive and didn't distance himself from anyone.

The ability to take a problem and make hay out of it is mighty impressive, I gotta say.

 

[BTExpress]

I'd still rather have a president who admits when he doesn't know everything about everything than one who can blow your hat off with his speaking but does it with mostly abstract ideals.

Would be nice . . . but in today's sound-bite world nobody can afford even five seconds of humility. Saying, "I don't know everything about everything" would only serve as negative campaign fodder for his opponent. "We can't trust someone who DOESN'T KNOW what to do . . . "

 

[Ben_Hecht]

I'd still rather have a president who admits when he doesn't know everything about everything than one who can blow your hat off with his speaking but does it with mostly abstract ideals.

Would be nice . . . but in today's sound-bite world nobody can afford even five seconds of humility. Saying, "I don't know everything about everything" would only serve as negative campaign fodder for his opponent. "We can't trust someone who DOESN'T KNOW what to do . . . "

McCain's done it, admitting he's an economic ignoramus. It's one of the reasons to lean against him, but it's not like we weren't aware of it, before he said it.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Not for nothing, but MSNBC made sure we knew what Squint Scarborough and Pat ****ing Buchanan thought of it straight off.
This country is so ****ed.

 

[alleyallen]

Not for nothing, but MSNBC made sure we knew what Squint Scarborough and Pat ****ing Buchanan thought of it straight off.
This country is so ****ed.

I just finished lunch so I wasn't up to the task of listening to what they said. What were their comments?

 

[OnTheRiver]

Not for nothing, but MSNBC made sure we knew what Squint Scarborough and Pat ****ing Buchanan thought of it straight off.
This country is so ****ed.

I just finished lunch so I wasn't up to the task of listening to what they said. What were their comments?

I didn't hear it, but I could take a pretty good guess.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

About what you'd expect.
Squint thought it was a good speech and probably changed a couple of minds.
Pat thought it was a good speech and that Negroes shouldn't be elected presid...ah...that it wouldn't change any minds.

 

[the_lorax]

I'd still rather have a president who admits when he doesn't know everything about everything than one who can blow your hat off with his speaking but does it with mostly abstract ideals.

Would be nice . . . but in today's sound-bite world nobody can afford even five seconds of humility. Saying, "I don't know everything about everything" would only serve as negative campaign fodder for his opponent. "We can't trust someone who DOESN'T KNOW what to do . . . "

McCain's done it, admitting he's an economic ignoramus. It's one of the reasons to lean against him, but it's not like we weren't aware of it, before he said it.

Why is it a bad thing that the guy says, "Hey, I might need some help on that," and surrounds himself with people who DO know? Better than BSing your way through an answer when you don't know it.

 

[Grimace]

I'd still rather have a president who admits when he doesn't know everything about everything than one who can blow your hat off with his speaking but does it with mostly abstract ideals.

Would be nice . . . but in today's sound-bite world nobody can afford even five seconds of humility. Saying, "I don't know everything about everything" would only serve as negative campaign fodder for his opponent. "We can't trust someone who DOESN'T KNOW what to do . . . "

McCain's done it, admitting he's an economic ignoramus. It's one of the reasons to lean against him, but it's not like we weren't aware of it, before he said it.

Why is it a bad thing that the guy says, "Hey, I might need some help on that," and surrounds himself with people who DO know?

Is that what McCain said?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

And that was the excuse we got in 2000 when people mentioned that Fredo was sort of detached from knowledge. He'd have "good people" around him.
How'd that work out?

 

[the_lorax]

Not directly, no. But it's not like the guy doesn't have a clue, either.