NY Times: Display ads on A1

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As of today, 1/5/2009:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/business/media/05times.html?hp

The last of the ad barriers to fall, I think.
 
Actually, I don't think the New York Post puts ads on their cover. Imagine that.
 
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.
 
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SF_Express said:
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.

True enough...but dammit, it's the NYT. Now everything is for sale.
 
The first paper I ever worked for, the one I grew up reading, has always had front-page advertisement. I used to cringe. Now I guess I should be proud it was ahead of its time.
 
SF_Express said:
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.

Kind of like the home plate rotational signage at baseball games.

When you first saw it, it was like putting an ad on the alter at church. Now it's no big deal.
 
Washington Post doesn't sell its front page.
My local metro doesn't do front page, or section front ads.
They might the last metro left that doesn't do any ads on any section front.
 
I deal with this **** on our sports section front every Sunday I work the desk.

And our A1 designers deal with it almost every day.
 
Considering what the front-page ad most recently replaced (a mini version of NYT contents page), the space was already being wasted on non-news so it's not a seismic shift. Meanwhile... can we talk about those 2 full pages of contents that the NYT is still running on the the inside of section A... followed by another wasted page with NYTweb promos (and a small corrections box)?

Honestly -- if the NYT still cared about news and is really downsizing, why does it completely waste 3 of its first four pages of Section A that way?

Bueller? Bueller?
 
Jayson Blair bothered me because that was a failure of the Times editorial management.

Ads on the front page are just a reality of today's business.
 
YankeeFan said:
SF_Express said:
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.

Kind of like the home plate rotational signage at baseball games.

When you first saw it, it was like putting an ad on the alter at church. Now it's no big deal.

Yeah, WTF, let anything go. We'll all get used to whatever it is, eventually.

Let 8-year-olds smoke. Make out with your girlfriend at your wife's funeral. Encourage your neighbors to take big, steaming dumps on your front porch. It might shock some of us at first, but we'll get used to it. Hey, anything goes if someone can cash a check.
 
I hate it even a little bit more because the ad is set up in such a way as to make it look like "news." Not very well, mind, but still.
 
Joe Williams said:
YankeeFan said:
SF_Express said:
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.

Kind of like the home plate rotational signage at baseball games.

When you first saw it, it was like putting an ad on the alter at church. Now it's no big deal.

Yeah, WTF, let anything go. We'll all get used to whatever it is, eventually.

Let 8-year-olds smoke. Make out with your girlfriend at your wife's funeral. Encourage your neighbors to take big, steaming dumps on your front porch. It might shock some of us at first, but we'll get used to it. Hey, anything goes if someone can cash a check.

I didn't mean to sound like I'm in favor of it. It's just human nature that as we get used to it, it becomes less of a big deal.
 
Joe Williams said:
YankeeFan said:
SF_Express said:
Smasher_Sloan said:
If that's what it takes, fine with me. No problem at all.

It's amazing how all of us would have been outraged, what, five years ago? And now it's just another step down the same road.

Kind of like the home plate rotational signage at baseball games.

When you first saw it, it was like putting an ad on the alter at church. Now it's no big deal.

Yeah, WTF, let anything go. We'll all get used to whatever it is, eventually.

Let 8-year-olds smoke. Make out with your girlfriend at your wife's funeral. Encourage your neighbors to take big, steaming dumps on your front porch. It might shock some of us at first, but we'll get used to it. Hey, anything goes if someone can cash a check.


There's a pretty substantial leap of logic.
 
Don't like to see ads on the front page, but going by design, that ad is the most attractive thing on that page.
 
Ads on page fronts undermine our integrity. And we wonder why our industry is failing and people don't trust us anymore.
 
The industry was on solid ground for many decades during which some papers had front-page ads, and I think the industry's decline toward what you call failing began before these latest to adopt the practice put their first front-page ad in front of the readership.

Not that I like the ads, but ...
 

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