Nova assistant's bio in question

[lone star scribe]

Villanova assistant basketball coach Doug Martin may have fabricated his biography, according to this ESPN.com report.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8256483/villanova-investigating-new-assistant-doug-martin-resume

Don't these guys know how easy this is to check today?

 

[jackfinarelli]

George O'Leary wonders what all the fuss is about.

 

[Mark2010]

Curious. I wonder why someone would put that down, but I wouldn't fire anyone over it if they were otherwise doing a good job.

 

[lone star scribe]

Curious. I wonder why someone would put that down, but I wouldn't fire anyone over it if they were otherwise doing a good job.

Are you serious? Here is evidence the coach fabricated his credentials -- academically and athletically. He even had the nerve to elect himself the team captain at Wisconsin-GB, where apparently he never attended or played. It's not murder or child rape, but look at what has happened at other schools where academic misconduct has been found.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[Della9250]

And shocking to learn he has resigned.

 

[poindexter]

Curious. I wonder why someone would put that down, but I wouldn't fire anyone over it if they were otherwise doing a good job.

I have a friend who was wondering if falsifying your resume is a problem.

 

[Mark2010]

You might be amazed at how often that happens, too. Not limited to sports jobs certainly.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

You might be amazed at how often that happens, too. Not limited to sports jobs certainly.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Mark2010]

You might be amazed at how often that happens, too. Not limited to sports jobs certainly.

Wow. Just wow.

Just a wakeup call for those of you living under a rock. No offence intended.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

You might be amazed at how often that happens, too. Not limited to sports jobs certainly.

Wow. Just wow.

Just a wakeup call for those of you living under a rock. No offence intended.

Yeah, OK.

 

[Canuck Pappy]

Ok, maybe a little off topic, but I decided to fire up my career/job search. I polished off the resume and joined LinkedIn. I decided to look up a few old colleagues on LinkedIn and guess what? I'm guessing 75% embellish a lot on their resume. Maybe not lie, but definitely stretch their qualifications and experience.
For example, someone I know spent a semester at a well-known J-school and dropped/flunked out. The J-school is prominently displayed on their resume, although they note "Courses needed to finish up degree."
I know someone that spent a week-long seminar at an Ivy League school, but looking at their online profile, you might get the impression that the bulk of their education was at the school.
My point is, obviously I'm not going to lie on my resume and make things up, but where is the line from embellishment and stretching the truth? Is a resume facts, and nothing but the facts? Or are you allowed to trump up certain aspects of your education and experience as long as you can back it up in some way if called out?

 

[Flip Wilson]

George O'Leary wonders what all the fuss is about.

When I was SID-ing, I had a file way, way back in a drawer labeled "O'Leary." When George O'Leary was in the news, I printed the website bios of every person on our staff and went to each of them and told them they had one chance to make "corrections" to any misinformation that might be on there, no questions asked. I think the only person to make a change was our head basketball coach, who was a self-promoting jackass, so that didn't surprise me.

 

[zagoshe]

Here is my question - how does this lie help this guy?

And what I mean is, if he was fabricating some coaching background or embellishing his roles as an assistant coach years ago, OK, I wouldn't do it but some guys have said that it has helped them get jobs early in their career and then once they got established they sort of weeded some things out that were not 100 percent accurate.

But this guy fabricated a playing career from 20 years ago - how in the world does that help at this stage in his career?

It makes no sense at all.

 

[Mark2010]

I guess some people will say/write whatever they think it takes to get an interview or job. I sort of understand that. If you are desperate to get your foot in the door someplace. Once you've started at a job and proved yourself, it shouldn't be an issue.

I remember O'Leary saying something about going to some school, not graduating, and intending to delete that info from his bio but not getting around to it.

 

[Azrael]

Once you've started at a job and proved yourself, it shouldn't be an issue.

Really?

As an employer I'd fire your ass as soon as it was apparent you'd lied to get the job. In part because I'd never be able to trust you again.

 

[lone star scribe]

What I don't get is how Jay Wright hired this guy in the first place. College basketball coaches literally know almost everybody in the business, and the ones they don't know they know somebody who does.

If I'm Jay Wright and a guy says he played for a legendary coach like **** Bennett, one of my first calls is going to be to **** Bennett. Just sayin'.

 

[Starman]

Kind of funny on this topic: when Joe Cullen, then an assistant of functional imbecile Rod Moronelli with the Detroit Lions, went on his little drunken naked ride back in 2006, a quick Google search turned up all sorts of weird things about his background -- several resume fudges, a few dates off by a couple years (maybe to cover up being out of football??) and curious omission of a job he was apparently fired from after a couple weeks following a previous alcohol incident.

Enough stuff turned up on Google to conclude his resume had been thoroughly cooked several times over before coming to Detroit, but as far as I know nothing more ever came of it -- I don't think the Lions could summarily fire him because he was in the NFL treatment program and by the time he came out everybody just seemed to forget about it.

Eventually of course the whole Marinelli staff went down in a Hindenburg dive so he was fired for fully legitimate reasons even discounting the drunken naked driving and the resume fudging.

 

[Killick]

What I don't get is how Jay Wright hired this guy in the first place. College basketball coaches literally know almost everybody in the business, and the ones they don't know they know somebody who does.

If I'm Jay Wright and a guy says he played for a legendary coach like **** Bennett, one of my first calls is going to be to **** Bennett. Just sayin'.

Strongly suspect he didn't want to ask many questions, as he wants some kids from the high school or AAU team dude was associated with, and hiring the coach was Wright's "in." Happens all the time.