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I've decided to look into the monthly subscription model for music- $12.95/month for as much music as I can listen to sounds like a better deal than $.89/$.99 per song or buying full albums. Anyone out there use one such as Napster or Rhapsody? I've googled it a bit and most of the articles are a couple years old.

I did a 7 day free trial of Napster and really liked it. The only two flaws were 1) that some songs are designated as purchase-only, meaning that if I was paying $12.95/month I would have to pay another 99 cents to get one song and 2) There is no way (that I know of) to play songs in your library straight through, you have to create a playlist for every sequence of songs you want to play. The latter was incredibly annoying.

Any thoughts?
 
I'd rather pay the $.99 a song/full album for $9.99 and know I own it. As soon as you stop subscribing to Napster or Rhapsody, you lose all those songs. You can no longer listen to them. So you're paying way more month-to-month than you would just to buy it.
 
Oh, **** that.

The first time you don't pay your fee, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. You cancel, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. And if the company you're paying decides to shut down the service, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. Ask former customers of the defunct subscription music services from Yahoo and Microsoft how that works.

At least if you cancel your magazine subscriptions, you still get to look at old copies you kept. Can't do that with an "online music subscription."

Save the $13 a month. In the long run you'll be glad you did.

And I googled "subscription music" and came up with this article from last Monday: http://technologizer.com/2009/02/06/please-world-like-subscription-music-wont-you/

From that link: I found this story at CNet:

Over at CNet, Greg Sandoval has a good story up on subscription music services such as the one that Microsoft offers for its Zune devices. They were supposed to be a big deal, but the idea never spawned any breakout hits. Yahoo and others exited the business, Rhapsody and Napster are niche successes at best, and it wouldn’t be the least bit surprising to see Microsoft say bye-bye to it at some point as well. Meanwhile, Apple has sold billions of non-subscription, buy-it-and-own-it song downloads.

From that link: I found this story at CNet:

Ring's statement made a big impression on me. The recording industry obviously continues to work the subscription angle, which is more than 5 years old, because a better way to boost profits hasn't come along. Label honchos aren't ready to discount anything--not when the margins on 99-cent downloads are so slim.

I was under the impression that eventually the download would replace the CD as the music sector's main sales unit. I assumed that instead of packaging a dozen songs together on a disc, the labels would just be forced to sell those songs individually. That isn't what they want to do, according to Ring.

Ring made clear subscription services are not the only business model Universal Music, the largest of the four top record labels, is exploring. Universal execs will continue testing strategies until they find one, or a combination, that works. . . .

I asked the panel, which included Cory Ondrjka, a vice president at EMI's digital unit, and Michael Spiegelman, head of Yahoo Music, how much longer the sector would try to breathe life into subscriptions. Anyone can see consumers just haven't warmed to the idea of renting songs.

There isn't a single music-subscription service selling music from the top labels that generates significant revenue. Yahoo couldn't make a go of it and got out. Napster and Rhapsody, RealNetwork's subscription service, continue to appeal to niche audiences. People just don't like the idea of losing their music if they stop paying fees.

Subscription music makes sense if and only if you're running a company with huge amounts of corporate overhead whose primary business is distributing music. For anybody else -- musicians, fans, the world in general, you in particular -- the idea is too stupid for color TV.

Never rent music.​
 
eMusic is great -- I get 100 downloads a month for $24.99 -- though the selection certainly doesn't cater to mainstream audiences.
 
2muchcoffeeman said:
Oh, **** that.

The first time you don't pay your fee, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. You cancel, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. And if the company you're paying decides to shut down the service, you no longer get to listen to "your" music. Ask former customers of the defunct subscription music services from Yahoo and Microsoft how that works.

At least if you cancel your magazine subscriptions, you still get to look at old copies you kept. Can't do that with an "online music subscription."

Save the $13 a month. In the long run you'll be glad you did.

And I googled "subscription music" and came up with this article from last Monday: http://technologizer.com/2009/02/06/please-world-like-subscription-music-wont-you/

From that link: I found this story at CNet:

Over at CNet, Greg Sandoval has a good story up on subscription music services such as the one that Microsoft offers for its Zune devices. They were supposed to be a big deal, but the idea never spawned any breakout hits. Yahoo and others exited the business, Rhapsody and Napster are niche successes at best, and it wouldn’t be the least bit surprising to see Microsoft say bye-bye to it at some point as well. Meanwhile, Apple has sold billions of non-subscription, buy-it-and-own-it song downloads.

From that link: I found this story at CNet:

Ring's statement made a big impression on me. The recording industry obviously continues to work the subscription angle, which is more than 5 years old, because a better way to boost profits hasn't come along. Label honchos aren't ready to discount anything--not when the margins on 99-cent downloads are so slim.

I was under the impression that eventually the download would replace the CD as the music sector's main sales unit. I assumed that instead of packaging a dozen songs together on a disc, the labels would just be forced to sell those songs individually. That isn't what they want to do, according to Ring.

Ring made clear subscription services are not the only business model Universal Music, the largest of the four top record labels, is exploring. Universal execs will continue testing strategies until they find one, or a combination, that works. . . .

I asked the panel, which included Cory Ondrjka, a vice president at EMI's digital unit, and Michael Spiegelman, head of Yahoo Music, how much longer the sector would try to breathe life into subscriptions. Anyone can see consumers just haven't warmed to the idea of renting songs.

There isn't a single music-subscription service selling music from the top labels that generates significant revenue. Yahoo couldn't make a go of it and got out. Napster and Rhapsody, RealNetwork's subscription service, continue to appeal to niche audiences. People just don't like the idea of losing their music if they stop paying fees.

Subscription music makes sense if and only if you're running a company with huge amounts of corporate overhead whose primary business is distributing music. For anybody else -- musicians, fans, the world in general, you in particular -- the idea is too stupid for color TV.

Never rent music.​

= a long way to say what I said in the first reply. :D
 
Trey Beamon said:
eMusic is great -- I get 100 downloads a month for $24.99 -- though the selection certainly doesn't cater to mainstream audiences.

Beat me to it. If you listen to indie stuff, eMusic is unbeatable.
 
bostonbred said:
torrents.

Could be problematic ...

"Researchers at Delft University warn that large parts of the BitTorrent network might collapse if The Pirate Bay is forced to shut down. A large part of the available torrents use The Pirate Bay as tracker, and other available trackers will probably be overloaded if all traffic is shifted there. TPB is currently using eight server for their trackers. According to the researchers, even trackerless torrents using the DHT protocol will face problems: 'One bug in a DHT sorting routine ensures that it can only "stumble upon success", meaning torrent downloads will not start in seconds or minutes if Pirate Bay goes down in flames.'"

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/13/1433250
 
The Good Doctor said:
IJAG, your new avatar is ... strange.

Thanks!

I tried to do dancing Nappy D, but it didn't show up. So I went with "Do they have large talons" Nappy.
 
imjustagirl said:
The Good Doctor said:
IJAG, your new avatar is ... strange.

Thanks!

I tried to do dancing Nappy D, but it didn't show up. So I went with "Do they have large talons" Nappy.

Oh. I've had that in my Photobucket for three years. Here:

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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/ChiCity81/animated-graphics112.gif
 

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