Miss California versus Gay Blogger Perez Hilton On Gay Marriage

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finishthehat said:
Perez Hilton was a beauty-show judge? Isn't he the guy who draws pictures of dicks going into celebrities' mouths, with you-know-what dripping down their faces?

Jesus, Mary & Joseph.

Yes, how horrible that someone like that would defile something deep, meaningful and sacrosanct like a beauty pageant.

This is a case of a PERFECT match. Shallow, vacuous garbage with the appropriate adjuncts.
 
The "Oh woe is us, the gays and the PC police are after us!" crap is so silly.

Honestly, like anyone gives a **** what Miss California or Perez Hilton have to say about anything.
 
Ace said:
Agree with all the Perez Hilton bashing.

However, BNWriter, yes we have free speech in this country. That is a right granted by the government. It doesn't mean we are free from the repercussions of our speech from gossip column bloggers or anyone else.

You are free to say what you want but aren't free from taking the heat for it.
Yeah, but she's taking a helluva lot more heat than if she had come out against tax credits for electric cars. When it comes to the gay community, there's only one opinion that counts, and it's theirs.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
I, too, respect ignorance because it is not politically correct.
It's not ignorance to be against gay marriage. It's an opinion. She didn't say gays should be rounded up and sent to concentration camps.
 
Saw a clip of her a minute ago on Hannity show (which I'm no fan of)
She is super strong, though. A really classy, down-to-earth, admittedly un-perfect woman.
She seems like a really cool chick.
Like several others on this thread, I am proud for her being able to express her true feelings.
So many people can't.
 
Blitz said:
Saw a clip of her a minute ago on Hannity show (which I'm no fan of)
She is super strong, though. A really classy, down-to-earth, admittedly un-perfect woman.
She seems like a really cool chick.
Like several others on this thread, I am proud for her being able to express her true feelings.
So many people can't.

I'm proud she told the way she really felt, instead of some coached up non-answer. But if you're going to speak your mind, get ready for the occasional backlash.

Talk is cheap, freedom of speech isn't. And she's paying the price.
 
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farmerjerome said:
slappy4428 said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Why does anybody give a **** about "Perez Hilton" anyway?

I've kinda found him to be like Mo Rocca -- living off 15 minutes of fame that need to be up.
She answered a question, he didn't like the answer and attacked her for it. Her answer differed with his -- welcome to America.


That's a low blow -- I loved Mo Rocca.

Dead to me.



(Mo Rocca, not you.)
 
2muchcoffeeman said:
farmerjerome said:
slappy4428 said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Why does anybody give a **** about "Perez Hilton" anyway?

I've kinda found him to be like Mo Rocca -- living off 15 minutes of fame that need to be up.
She answered a question, he didn't like the answer and attacked her for it. Her answer differed with his -- welcome to America.


That's a low blow -- I loved Mo Rocca.

Dead to me.



(Mo Rocca, not you.)

So am I dead to you, FJ dead to you, or Ho Rocca dead to you?
 
Unfortunately for America, President Obama agrees with Miss California.
 
Good for Prejean for saying what she believes and shame on Hilton for calling her a "*****" later. If he didn't like her answer, he shouldn't have asked the question. I'm glad Prejean was honest.
I watched a morning show in which they interviewed Hilton and he said he hopes this doesn't usher in a trend where beauty pageants are decided on what the girls say. But didn't he just pretty damage her vote based on what she said?
Look, I don't care about pageants, but screw Hilton. There are people that don't like gay marriage and if you don't like, then tough. If you don't want to know what someone thinks, don't ask.
Now, Hilton go back in your hole.
 
Hilton made one really good point -- Miss America ought to give politically correct answers, because she will represent the United States and speaking engagements and functions no matter where she goes. She's supposed to be an all-encompassing personality. It's why you won't ever see a Miss America who advocates for marijuana's legalization, or who says it's OK to drive drunk, or who believes people shouldn't date outside their race, etc.

She could have said basically said it's up to the states to decide among themselves to avoid the personal response.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
Who cares?
But if this woman doesn't have a book deal from Regnery by the end of the week, I'll eat my hat.

That's a winner.

Who will remember anything about this event except for what Miss California said?

Objective: Accomplished. (Even if it wasn't intended to play out like this).
 
For those who didn't know - this girl was a former PadSquad for the Padres, ie she used to cheer on the Padres and throw t-shirts into the stands during the fifth inning.

So she also likes sports, I assume.
 
So she'll be next in line for the newscaster role on a show like Best Damn Sports Show on FOX?
 
Oz said:
It's why you won't ever see a Miss America who advocates for marijuana's legalization, or who says it's OK to drive drunk, or who believes people shouldn't date outside their race, etc.

um, i would hope no one thinks this.
 
SnoopyBoy said:
Good for Prejean for saying what she believes and shame on Hilton for calling her a "*****" later. If he didn't like her answer, he shouldn't have asked the question. I'm glad Prejean was honest.
I watched a morning show in which they interviewed Hilton and he said he hopes this doesn't usher in a trend where beauty pageants are decided on what the girls say. But didn't he just pretty damage her vote based on what she said?
Look, I don't care about pageants, but screw Hilton. There are people that don't like gay marriage and if you don't like, then tough. If you don't want to know what someone thinks, don't ask.
Now, Hilton go back in your hole.

For my perspective of this, I'll switch hats to the one I wear as a pageant judge. I've been to pageant judge training and served as a judge for local preliminary pageants leading up to our Miss America Organization state pageant.

Judges are supposed to leave their opinions at the door when working a pageant. There have been times in the private interview with judges and the on-stage question of the competition when a contestant gave an opinion I disagreed with, but I didn't penalize her. If she spoke clearly, sounded confident and intelligent, and was committed to her opinion, I would give her high marks. What Hilton did is typical of novice celebrity judges who come into a pageant with a personal agenda and throws a hissy fit by giving a contestant like Miss California an incredibly low score based on her response.

The scoring between the final contestants going into the on-stage question must've been awfully close, which makes me wonder how the other judges scored Miss California. If Hilton is true and the OSQ cost Miss Cali the crown, then it's a sign most or all of the judges gave her a low score as well.

On the local level, on-stage questions come from a question the contestant hears during the private interview with the judges hours before the program. But on the state and national competitions, the pageant uses the element of surprise by making the contestants draw for a random question - like the Miss USA Pageant did.
 
Considering Trump is involved and because this pageant was shifted to starting at 7 p.m. when most of the nation was still enjoying some springtime sunshine instead of watching TV (hence the ratings drop this year) and because the judges' panel consisted of a collection of "Who's that?" celebrities ... well, my conspiracy theory alarm is tingling as I wonder if this whole thing isn't being ginned up to create buzz for the pageant.
 
Another gay Miss USA judge who possibly cost Miss California the title ... Brian Graden, president of MTV Networks and co-creator of the Logo channel (24 hour channel for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people). Graden's life partner is an attorney who fought for same sex marriage in California (later overturned by Proposition Eight).
 

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