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93Devil said:
Isn't Marvin Harrison's bar, or whatever the hell it is, in Philly?

Two questions...

1. With Vick, do the Eagles have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl?

2. With Vick, do the Eagles have a better chance of going 4-12?

I think #2's answer is a lot higher than #1's.

Kolb must be even worse than I remember him being, and my memories of him are putrid.

Try as I might, I don't understand this logic...
 
Inky_Wretch said:
93Devil said:
1. With Vick, do the Eagles have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl?

On ESPN, Gruden said Vick might be the final piece to get the Eagles over the hump. I immediately began questioning ESPN's wisdom in hiring him.

If Vick can suddenly morph from an overrated, has-been QB to a No. 1 WR, then, ya, he could be the missing piece.
 
Care Bear said:
93Devil said:
Isn't Marvin Harrison's bar, or whatever the hell it is, in Philly?

Two questions...

1. With Vick, do the Eagles have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl?

2. With Vick, do the Eagles have a better chance of going 4-12?

I think #2's answer is a lot higher than #1's.

Kolb must be even worse than I remember him being, and my memories of him are putrid.

Try as I might, I don't understand this logic...

The Eagles are a good team. Let's say their chance to win the Super Bowl is 5% better with Vick, but he could implode the locker room. I would say there is a 25% chance of that happening.

They already have McNabb, Westbrook and a young Jackson. They were thisfreekingclose to making the Super Bowl last year, and I think they would have beaten Pittsburgh if given the chance.

The defense just had their longtime coordinator pass away, so half the players are dealing with that, now the offense has to deal with this guy?

Remember, you could argue that they were one of the 3-4 best teams in the league last season.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Sunday Night Game of the Week on Dec. 6 might be in the House that Deion Built.
Think that game will be hyped a wee bit? Talk about distractions. McNabb is going to be longing for a Rush Limbaugh diatribe by the time that week's over.

By the way, how many carries will Vick get a game? Four? Eight? They're not going to pay him that money to hold a clipboard. He's going to get on the field. And what that will do, whether it's effective or not, is make teams devote quite a bit of practice time to stopping him.

I don't think it makes the Eagles a Super Bowl team by any means. But if he's anywhere close to the runner he was two years ago, they'll be a ***** to prepare for.
 
CB, Pittsburgh went 10-6 in 2007 and was run out of the playoffs at home to a team quarterbacked by a guy named Gerrard.

The next year they win the Super Bowl with zero significant changes. They just got a little older, a little better and a little luckier with certain bounces of the football.

The Eagles are ****ing with a good thing.
 
Sam Mills 51 said:
Wonder how Donovan McNabb will get blamed for this one?

Interesting idea if they're looking to run the new-fangled scheme ... whatever it's called. But I also wonder if they'll look to use him for something other than the new scheme. He could be very handy either backing up Bryant Westbrook or taking some of the rushing load off of him. If Michael Vick will capitalize on this chance instead of getting upset that someone thought of him as something other than a quarterback.

Also, glad this got done because I was sick of the WWL trying to send him to Charlotte. That rumor was getting old in a hurry. Not only do the Panthers not have the cap room, but John Fox and Marty Hurney aren't going to undercut Jake Delhomme, especially after the debacle against the Cardinals.
Michael Vick is not a running back. Maybe a receiver, but definitely not a running back. There's no way he has the body to be one. I still think you can play Vick at qb, especially for the Eagles. Plus If McNabb goes down, it would force the Eagles to play the way they should've been playing all along, by giving the ball to Westbrook 30 times a game instead of having McNabb throw 40+ passes every sunday.
 
93,

I understand your sentiments, but McNabb and Vick are pretty close friends. Like legit friends, plus Vick will absolutely have to be on his best behavior. Plus, every player in the league, pretty much down to a man, wants this dude to get a second chance.

Add those factors up, and I don't think he's nearly the distraction people want to make him out to be.
 
BYH said:
The media has been very desirous that a black Wildcat quarterback do well.

It's the sport of kings...
Better than diamond rings...
Wildcat...
football....
 
I'm sure that this will barely merit a mention on WIP tomorrow morning.
 
Chuck~Taylor said:
Sam Mills 51 said:
Wonder how Donovan McNabb will get blamed for this one?

Interesting idea if they're looking to run the new-fangled scheme ... whatever it's called. But I also wonder if they'll look to use him for something other than the new scheme. He could be very handy either backing up Bryant Westbrook or taking some of the rushing load off of him. If Michael Vick will capitalize on this chance instead of getting upset that someone thought of him as something other than a quarterback.

Also, glad this got done because I was sick of the WWL trying to send him to Charlotte. That rumor was getting old in a hurry. Not only do the Panthers not have the cap room, but John Fox and Marty Hurney aren't going to undercut Jake Delhomme, especially after the debacle against the Cardinals.
Michael Vick is not a running back. Maybe a receiver, but definitely not a running back. There's no way he has the body to be one. I still think you can play Vick at qb, especially for the Eagles. Plus If McNabb goes down, it would force the Eagles to play the way they should've been playing all along, by giving the ball to Westbrook 30 times a game instead of having McNabb throw 40+ passes every sunday.

His hands are too much of an unknown to even think about being a wideout. Plus the patterns and other techniques of the position. Easier to transition as a running back than a wideout.

Yeah, Vick might still have some skills as a QB. But, last I checked, not only do the Eagles still have Donovan McNabb at the position, but also used a high-round pick for Kevin Kolb pretty recently.

It's a fine line between being too content at a position and letting the parade pass you by and continuing to rock the boat, but this signing is a bad sign toward the latter for the Eagles. Unless Andy Reid and his staff decide to use Vick for purposes other than playing quarterback.
 
Chuck~Taylor said:
Sam Mills 51 said:
Wonder how Donovan McNabb will get blamed for this one?

Interesting idea if they're looking to run the new-fangled scheme ... whatever it's called. But I also wonder if they'll look to use him for something other than the new scheme. He could be very handy either backing up Bryant Westbrook or taking some of the rushing load off of him. If Michael Vick will capitalize on this chance instead of getting upset that someone thought of him as something other than a quarterback.

Also, glad this got done because I was sick of the WWL trying to send him to Charlotte. That rumor was getting old in a hurry. Not only do the Panthers not have the cap room, but John Fox and Marty Hurney aren't going to undercut Jake Delhomme, especially after the debacle against the Cardinals.
Michael Vick is not a running back. Maybe a receiver, but definitely not a running back. There's no way he has the body to be one. I still think you can play Vick at qb, especially for the Eagles. Plus If McNabb goes down, it would force the Eagles to play the way they should've been playing all along, by giving the ball to Westbrook 30 times a game instead of having McNabb throw 40+ passes every sunday.

I knew you'd say something right at some point. Vick would get killed lining up as a RB on a regular basis. If you get him moving and get him the ball in the Wildcat, he's got a chance to do some things. But like the "offense" that he's so perfect for, he's nothing more than a gimmick.
 
Chuck~Taylor said:
Sam Mills 51 said:
Wonder how Donovan McNabb will get blamed for this one?

Interesting idea if they're looking to run the new-fangled scheme ... whatever it's called. But I also wonder if they'll look to use him for something other than the new scheme. He could be very handy either backing up Bryant Westbrook or taking some of the rushing load off of him. If Michael Vick will capitalize on this chance instead of getting upset that someone thought of him as something other than a quarterback.

Also, glad this got done because I was sick of the WWL trying to send him to Charlotte. That rumor was getting old in a hurry. Not only do the Panthers not have the cap room, but John Fox and Marty Hurney aren't going to undercut Jake Delhomme, especially after the debacle against the Cardinals.
Michael Vick is not a running back. Maybe a receiver, but definitely not a running back. There's no way he has the body to be one. I still think you can play Vick at qb, especially for the Eagles. Plus If McNabb goes down, it would force the Eagles to play the way they should've been playing all along, by giving the ball to Westbrook 30 times a game instead of having McNabb throw 40+ passes every sunday.

Westbrook, especially at this stage in his career, is never going to last carrying the ball 30 times a game.
 

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