Is MSNBC really this stupid?

[old_tony]

The network's Facebook page put out a post all worked up over the fact that an out-of-state driver's license is not acceptable ID according to Texas' voter ID law.

http://youngcons.com/msnbc-is-completely-dumbfounded-by-the-most-laughable-thing-ever/

They are aware that an out-of-state driver's license is proof that the person lives in a different state, aren't they?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

 

[HejiraHenry]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

You have, typically, 90 days to get that fixed.

In a younger day, when i was a bit more careless about my essential paper work, I went to the bank to cash a check and I produced my (expired) DL. Teller refused to cash it. Me: "The DL may be expired, but I am not."

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

You have, typically, 90 days to get that fixed.

In a younger day, when i was a bit more careless about my essential paper work, I went to the bank to cash a check and I produced my (expired) DL. Teller refused to cash it. Me: "The DL may be expired, but I am not."

Did that mean you didn't live in that state?

 

[HejiraHenry]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

You have, typically, 90 days to get that fixed.

In a younger day, when i was a bit more careless about my essential paper work, I went to the bank to cash a check and I produced my (expired) DL. Teller refused to cash it. Me: "The DL may be expired, but I am not."

Did that mean you didn't live in that state?

It was a Virginia DL and we were in Virginia. My name and SSN on both the DL and the bank account. She was just being difficult. We worked it out.

 

[fossywriter8]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

 

[old_tony]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

If you're using a driver's license from Ohio as your identification, you're showing that you live in Ohio. If you've moved from Ohio to Texas, it is your responsibility to get your Texas driver's license.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

If you're using a driver's license from Ohio as your identification, you're showing that you live in Ohio. If you've moved from Ohio to Texas, it is your responsibility to get your Texas driver's license.

You usually post incorrect assumptions, so I'm not surprised you continue to do so when everything between your two posts in this thread show you are incorrect.

 

[albert77]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

If you're using a driver's license from Ohio as your identification, you're showing that you live in Ohio. If you've moved from Ohio to Texas, it is your responsibility to get your Texas driver's license.

You usually post incorrect assumptions, so I'm not surprised you continue to do so when everything between your two posts in this thread show you are incorrect.

What part of the words prove and proof do you not understand? Showing an Ohio drivers license to prove you live in Texas is no proof at all. It doesn't prove that you live where you say you live. How hard is that to understand?

 

[93Devil]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/driverlicense/nonmilitaryrenewal.htm

A new driver license or ID card will be mailed within 45 days after DPS receives the request.

So can they vote with the paper copy of their license since it will take 45 days to get the new one?

 

[93Devil]

OK, I guess you have to apply for one of these...

http://www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/electionID.htm

And then I guess you have to come back and do another process if you want to vote...

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/cleveland/news/mobile-stations-to-issue-election-identification-certificates-across-texas-beginning/article_5d64dedd-fab3-56fc-948c-b54c3b9b866d.html?TNNoMobile

Basically, they are making harder to vote for people who have recently moved to Texas.

 

[JayFarrar]

Do they accept military ID?

Lots of folks on bases don't change their drivers license. Same goes for college students.

Anyway, the whole point if voter ID is to disenfranchise people and keep them from voting.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

If you're using a driver's license from Ohio as your identification, you're showing that you live in Ohio. If you've moved from Ohio to Texas, it is your responsibility to get your Texas driver's license.

You usually post incorrect assumptions, so I'm not surprised you continue to do so when everything between your two posts in this thread show you are incorrect.

What part of the words prove and proof do you not understand? Showing an Ohio drivers license to prove you live in Texas is no proof at all. It doesn't prove that you live where you say you live. How hard is that to understand?

I never said it did.

 

[Armchair_QB]

OK, I guess you have to apply for one of these...

http://www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/electionID.htm

And then I guess you have to come back and do another process if you want to vote...

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/cleveland/news/mobile-stations-to-issue-election-identification-certificates-across-texas-beginning/article_5d64dedd-fab3-56fc-948c-b54c3b9b866d.html?TNNoMobile

Basically, they are making harder to vote for people who have recently moved to Texas.

They aren't actually "making it harder" now. It's been this way for years - under both parties.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

So if I move to Florida tomorrow I don't live there until I have a Florida driver's license?

No, it means you can't use an out-of-state driver's license to prove your residency in your new state.

So indeed it does not mean a person lives in another state, as the original poster believes.

If you're using a driver's license from Ohio as your identification, you're showing that you live in Ohio. If you've moved from Ohio to Texas, it is your responsibility to get your Texas driver's license.

What about people who don't have a driver's license, but own their own home? Why can't they use their deed, or something, with a photo to prove they are who they say they are?

 

[dirtybird]

It has been mentioned above already, but it's actually pretty simple. Some states have it set up where you can bring ID and proof of where you live. There's probably some other situation it makes sense, but the one that comes to mind is out-of state students.

 

[Boom_70]

MSNBC has just given up on being taken seriously as a legitimate news organization.
They are now just trying to make to last few years of the obama failure as comfortable
as possible for him.

 

[Amy]

The Texas Voter ID law was not enacted to ensure that people voted in the correct place. The statute states that "on presentation of the documentation ... an election officer shall determine whether the voter's name on the documentation is of the list of registered voters for the precinct" and, if so, the person is allowed to vote. The State's website explaining the law recognizes the limited nature of the law, stating "the new requirement makes no determination on voter address matching criteria; therefore, there is no address matching requirement." (emphasis added) Not all the allowable forms of ID even have an address, ie, a US passport.

The only thing the this law allows is matching of name in voter list with name on ID and picture on ID with person at the poll. A driver license from another state serves that purpose.

They aren't actually "making it harder" now. It's been this way for years - under both parties.

This in a new law, enacted in 2011 under a Republican administration. The law was challenged in court and blocked, but after the SCOTUS decision striking down the preclearance requirement of the Voting Rights Act, the block was removed. It will be fully in effect for the first time in 2014.

 

[User 11148]

The Texas Voter ID law was not enacted to ensure that people voted in the correct place. The statute states that "on presentation of the documentation ... an election officer shall determine whether the voter's name on the documentation is of the list of registered voters for the precinct" and, if so, the person is allowed to vote.

My reading of that is that it's intended to prevent people from voting in the incorrect place (because if you're not eligible to vote in a particular precinct you won't be allowed to vote there).