IF It Winds Up Being McCain/Obama . . . A Milestone In Modern US History

[Ben_Hecht]

NEITHER candidate favored going into the general-election year by the settled/established prevailing party hierarchy (Romney/Clinton) will be nominated?

Some may want to pick nits re Mitt, but where do you want to go with that? Rudy was melting into a puddle when the calendar turned, and Fred broke twenty lengths behind and never got out of a gallop. Romney was the only one hewing to the hard line of the right wing, had a TON of money to play with . . . and got whipped. I think it's clear why, but we'll save that, for another season.

HRC, there's no debate.

This development, if it comes to pass, in conjunction with the astonishing increase in
participation on the Dem side in the face of what's transpired this millenium, is the most heartening broad political evolution I've witnessed in my lifetime.

The big-money so-called "pros" have been emphatically told to shove it.

God, it's good.

 

[Bubbler]

It is good, but it's still damn early. I hope the good lasts.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

It is good, but it's still damn early. I hope the good lasts.

I said IF.

That said, hope to hell it does.

 

[andyouare?]

Definitetly agree about McCain.

I mean, they were literally predicting when exactly he would drop out of the race just 3-4 months ago. Go back and read the stories. Whether by accident, good fortune or his own abilities, McCain getting the nod is amazing.

 

[Moderator1]

If?
Is there really any doubt any more?

 

[zeke12]

Will also be the largest age difference between candidates ever if it's Obama-McCain.

Obama is 46, I think, and McCain is, what, 72?

An entire generation between them.

 

[Bob Cook]

Also, it will be the electorate's statement that after watching the Clinton-Bush era, it doesn't trust the Boomers to be in charge anymore.

(Yeah, Obama is technically part of the Baby Boom because he was born in 1961, but does anybody identify him with the Boomer era?)

 

[Moderator1]

The first president younger than I am!
Can he win? Will he win? The Queen is more of a diehard Dem than I am but she likes McCain.

"Yeah," I said, "your right to like him. But he's 106!"

Is the nation ready to elect a minority President?

Guess we'll find out.

 

[Armchair_QB]

The first president younger than I am!
Can he win? Will he win? The Queen is more of a diehard Dem than I am but she likes McCain.

"Yeah," I said, "your right to like him. But he's 106!"

Is the nation ready to elect a minority President?

Guess we'll find out.

Wait, I thought Bill Clinton was the first black president...

 

[Ben_Hecht]

In the top spot, for that matter, the Boomers have done little better than the Lost generation, who essentially got shut out . . . Bill and W. That's it . . . unless Romney somehow makes it in '12 -- which I doubt.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Also, it will be the electorate's statement that after watching the Clinton-Bush era, it doesn't trust the Boomers to be in charge anymore.

(Yeah, Obama is technically part of the Baby Boom because he was born in 1961, but does anybody identify him with the Boomer era?)

If, for the purposes of your argument, you don't want to, then, no, he doesn't count.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

The first president younger than I am!
Can he win? Will he win? The Queen is more of a diehard Dem than I am but she likes McCain.

"Yeah," I said, "your right to like him. But he's 106!"

Is the nation ready to elect a minority President?

Guess we'll find out.

Wait, I thought Bill Clinton was the first black president...

Some people thought it was Abe Lincoln

 

[Boom_70]

NEITHER candidate favored going into the general-election year by the settled/established prevailing party hierarchy (Romney/Clinton) will be nominated?

Some may want to pick nits re Mitt, but where do you want to go with that? Rudy was melting into a puddle when the calendar turned, and Fred broke twenty lengths behind and never got out of a gallop. Romney was the only one hewing to the hard line of the right wing, had a TON of money to play with . . . and got whipped. I think it's clear why, but we'll save that, for another season.

HRC, there's no debate.

This development, if it comes to pass, in conjunction with the astonishing increase in
participation on the Dem side in the face of what's transpired this millenium, is the most heartening broad political evolution I've witnessed in my lifetime.

The big-money so-called "pros" have been emphatically told to shove it.

God, it's good.

Well said Ben . I agree. The people have spoken.

 

[JackS]

If nothing else, that matchup will put far more states in play than otherwise would be.

 

[finishthehat]

NEITHER candidate favored going into the general-election year by the settled/established prevailing party hierarchy (Romney/Clinton) will be nominated?

Some may want to pick nits re Mitt, but where do you want to go with that? Rudy was melting into a puddle when the calendar turned, and Fred broke twenty lengths behind and never got out of a gallop. Romney was the only one hewing to the hard line of the right wing, had a TON of money to play with . . . and got whipped. I think it's clear why, but we'll save that, for another season.

HRC, there's no debate.

This development, if it comes to pass, in conjunction with the astonishing increase in
participation on the Dem side in the face of what's transpired this millenium, is the most heartening broad political evolution I've witnessed in my lifetime.

The big-money so-called "pros" have been emphatically told to shove it.

God, it's good.

Of course, this is the first time there hasn't been an incumbent (president or VP) running in God knows how long.

 

[finishthehat]

1968.

Humphrey was LBJ's VP, right?

 

[zeke12]

I think 1952 is correct.

 

[EStreetJoe]

I think 1952 is correct.

1952 is correct.
General Dwight Eisenhower vs. Governor Adlai Stevenson

 

[RedSmithClone]

NEITHER candidate favored going into the general-election year by the settled/established prevailing party hierarchy (Romney/Clinton) will be nominated?

Not sure what you were watching heading into this election cycle, but I think Mayor Rudy was actually the runaway winner according to most in the GOP.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

NEITHER candidate favored going into the general-election year by the settled/established prevailing party hierarchy (Romney/Clinton) will be nominated?

Not sure what you were watching heading into this election cycle, but I think Mayor Rudy was actually the runaway winner according to most in the GOP.

He was the pacesetter last year, yes, but he lost momentum in a hurry as we approached this primary season . . .

And more on point, Il Duce didn't have the $ power behind him that Romney generated (both on his own behalf, and from outside . . . )