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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1203084513-zd1Iu8BegtYwzBuRHr1/IA

It appears that John Lewis is ready to endorse Obama. That will break the ***. Of course Lewis is trying to save his own hide since majority of his district voted for Obama in primary.

When the Clintons do their post mortem they will see that their actions in South Carolina did Hillary in.
 
Boom_70 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1203084513-zd1Iu8BegtYwzBuRHr1/IA

It appears that John Lewis is ready to endorse Obama. That will break the ***. Of course Lewis is trying to save his own hyde since majority of his district voted for Obama in primary.

When the Clintons do their post mortem they will see that their actions in South Carolina did Hillary in.


Good to see something good coming from a state which historically has seemed to respond with the basest political reflexes in the American psyche.
 
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.
 
suburbia said:
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.


If she does, she'll be widely reviled.

Does she give a ****?
 
Ben_Hecht said:
suburbia said:
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.


If she does, she'll be widely reviled.

Does she give a ****?

Is this a trick question?
 
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suburbia said:
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.
She's the Keyser Soze of politics.
 
I'm fascinated to see how the Clintons handle this... How much they'll fight and how dirty they'll fight.

The dirtier, actually the better it could be for Obama. You want a lot of people disgusted with the Clintons. That way folks start to think they're making the proper, moral choice.

I heard Bob Shrum put out an interesting thought. He said Al Gore could be called in to broker a deal with regard to Michigan and Florida and to get Hil out of the race.

He hasn't endorsed, he's got the juice, and he has "mess in Florida" experience.
 
The whole thing is funny as hell. You can just see the indignation on her face because Obama had the audacity to step in and interrupt her cornonation march to the nomination. She believed she was entitled to the nomination, that it was her turn, her reward. And she and her supporters are shocked that someone had better ideas and tons more charisma and appeal.

And I'm also sure she's pissed off because the timing has been interrupted. In Clinton World, Obama would go away, with a nice pat on the head, and be told: "you're young ... come back in eight years and you can be the heir apparent."

There's no way Hillary runs in eight years, if Obama wins the presidency. This was her time, and she's cooked, and she's pissed.
 
Begala & Carville have to hate this. Without a relevant Bill & Hillary, they become just a couple of has-beens.
 
hondo said:
The whole thing is funny as hell. You can just see the indignation on her face because Obama had the audacity to step in and interrupt her cornonation march to the nomination. She believed she was entitled to the nomination, that it was her turn, her reward. And she and her supporters are shocked that someone had better ideas and tons more charisma and appeal.

And I'm also sure she's pissed off because the timing has been interrupted. In Clinton World, Obama would go away, with a nice pat on the head, and be told: "you're young ... come back in eight years and you can be the heir apparent."

There's no way Hillary runs in eight years, if Obama wins the presidency. This was her time, and she's cooked, and she's pissed.


Ding.
Ding.
Ding.
 
suburbia said:
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.

Been saying that for awhile now.
 
I love it.

I wondered aloud if the black politicians who are backing the Clintons were doing so for their own personal gain rather than the wants and the will of their constituents.

I had a real problem in particular with the posturing of Representative John Lewis out of Georgia and his lapdogging for Hillary as if he had a collar around his neck with his tongue hanging out his mouth waiting for her toss him a bone.

Now it looks like they're jumping ship seeing the outpouring of support Obama has garnered from their own districts.

Now they want to avoid carrying the yoke of responsibility if Obama loses and their names being attached to it.

So it put them in a position where they had to do it to sustain their cushy livelyhoods anyway.

I'm sick of these old black civil rights generation politicians who refuse to let go of their strangle hold of power standing behind their "you didn't have it as bad as us" routine.

The young people have spoken.
 
heyabbott said:
Begala & Carville have to hate this. Without a relevant Bill & Hillary, they become just a couple of has-beens.

Same with most of the right-wing pundit machine. Why would they support Clinton over McCain? Because they know it's four to eight guaranteed years of a ravenous audience. She comes pre-demonized.
 
My gosh, I'd better get the duct tape and store up on food and supplies for the inevitable implosion of the Democratic Party.

Good to see the Clinton Rules in full force today. I know it's a message board and all, but can we hold ourselves to a higher standard than Jerry Falwell's DVD-of-the-month club?

Keep your eyes on the ball, people.

Anyway, I'm glad, as a Democrat that we had two -- no, three -- exceptional candidates:

Obama's Extraordinary Wave Fails to Sink Extraordinary Foe

For Republican strategists and leaders, facing divisions over presumptive nominee John McCain, the Arizona senator, and demoralized over President Bush's and the party's unpopularity, the potency of both Democrats' candidacies is both fearsome and impressive.

"The Obama wave is unlike anything I have seen during my career. It would have totally swamped any traditional candidate," said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducts The Wall Street Journal/NBC News polls with Democratic pollster Peter Hart. "The fact that Clinton is still standing and breaking even is actually a remarkable statement about how unique a candidate she is and what an exceptionally strong candidate."
 
suburbia said:
If Hillary goes down here, I have a feeling she's going to take the Democratic Party - Obama's presidential chances included - with her.

I agree with you.

One thing I'll say about the Republican party. They have a bunker mentality when it comes to the sustenance of their party. I don't think the Democrats have ever displayed that same type of discipline.
 
Everyone overreacts to every action the Clintons take. Her recent attacks are benign and, to me at least, not very effective. But some people are so tired of this family they're angered by everything. This is the problem with her candidacy and why it would be difficult for her to be an effective leader. It's also the reason no family should be in power too long.
 
I've posted this before, but I don't think the "Hillary destroys party thing" happens. She still has to go back to the Senate. The Clintons are a lot of things but they're not dumb.
 
Claws for Concern said:
When does Hillary bring out the brass knuckles?


Any moment, now.

But after that "slumlord" blank she fired, you wonder how much ammo she has.
 

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