Guess what? It's about access.

[Leo Mazzone]

I'm working on a story involving a basketball player at a D-I school who left the team for "personal reasons." The player is international and his time at said school didn't go well. Another international player on the team has thrived, and so this piece is to be about how one was successful and the other didn't work out-- how each dealt with the transition international players must make while bouncing around prep schools and handling the recruiting process.

Anyway, I ask the SID if the player who left is officially off the team. He is. No practice, no games...nothing. OK, I say, so I can contact him outside of your jurisdiction? NO, SID says.

"But he's no longer part of the team, correct?"

"Right, but he's still under the umbrella." Whatever the hell that means.

SID tells me I can submit questions through her via e-mail and she will send me said player's responses. I don't like this idea and tell her as much. No matter. I can't talk to the guy, she says.

His side of the story is important. The obvious reasons for leaving are that he has sucked at this level and injuries have wieghed him down. But I think there are family issues in his home country as well and want to know whether he plans transfer, go home or whatever.

I e-mailed the guy, telling him what I was working on and how he could contact me. He replied that he was working some thngs out and that he would get back to me.

Am I going about this the right way? Any other suggestions?

thanks

 

[e4]

yes.

people, especially college kids, are able to speak for themselves. journalists should never go the submitted questions route, because it only weakens the journalist and journalism.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

Under the umbrella? Well, I guess you could interpret that as the SID and the school "taking care of its own," so to speak, but this sounds like complete bull**** to me. Honestly, I don't know why you'd ask for her permission, unless you needed to get his number from her or something.

 

[e4]

"under the umbrella" means he won't say all nice things about the school/program/coach so the SID is running interference

 

[dog428]

I'm working on a story involving a basketball player at a D-I school who left the team for "personal reasons." The player is international and his time at said school didn't go well. Another international player on the team has thrived, and so this piece is to be about how one was successful and the other didn't work out-- how each dealt with the transition international players must make while bouncing around prep schools and handling the recruiting process.

Anyway, I ask the SID if the player who left is officially off the team. He is. No practice, no games...nothing. OK, I say, so I can contact him outside of your jurisdiction? NO, SID says.

"But he's no longer part of the team, correct?"

"Right, but he's still under the umbrella." Whatever the hell that means.

SID tells me I can submit questions through her via e-mail and she will send me said player's responses. I don't like this idea and tell her as much. No matter. I can't talk to the guy, she says.

His side of the story is important. The obvious reasons for leaving are that he has sucked at this level and injuries have wieghed him down. But I think there are family issues in his home country as well and want to know whether he plans transfer, go home or whatever.

I e-mailed the guy, telling him what I was working on and how he could contact me. He replied that he was working some thngs out and that he would get back to me.

Am I going about this the right way? Any other suggestions?

thanks

I'd worry about you if you hadn't contacted this guy.

I don't know where you all run into these Nazi SIDs, but son of a *****, that "same umbrella" bull**** is laugh-out-loud funny.

 

[wickedwritah]

There are times where it serves you to go through an SID, especially if you wanna cozy up to them. This is not one of them. In fact, I'm kind of shocked you sought permission from the SID to talk to this kid. You have a right to track him down, and he has a right to speak or not to speak with you.

SID can't enforce the "you can't talk to them" crap. The only thing an SID can do is suggest players and coaches boycott you if you run afoul of the "rules," and that boycott will end the second the SID sees your paper no longer is covering said team.

 

[Double J]

That umbrella, we employed it, by August she was mine. [/hollies]

 

[Leo Mazzone]

She also asked why I wanted to write the story, because he was off the team. I told her that was the reason why. No one else was writing it. Another similar player had thrived in the same situation. Guy that left the team was no scrub at previous stops.

It's sort of like a Guns, Germs and Steel look at college basketball. Why one society boomed and another didn't.

"There are plenty of other original stories you could do," she said.

Yeah, on this size roster?

And to clarify a bit, I went through her first to try and get it set up as easily as possible. I'm not relying on the blessing of media relations.

 

[wickedwritah]

She also asked why I wanted to write the story, because he was off the team.

Next time, she needs to learn how to play dumb a little better.

"Now, why would you want to write about news?"

Thanks, Leo, for the clarification. Should've figured you weren't just sitting back and waiting for the SID to give her blessing.

 

[spnited]

Here's one way to try it:

When you talk to the other international on the team (with Frau SID's permission) ask him if he knows what's up with the other guy or how you could contact him for his side of the story. You'd be surprised how quickly some athletes give out teammates' cell phone numbers.

 

[SteveThePirate]

She also asked why I wanted to write the story, because he was off the team. I told her that was the reason why. No one else was writing it. Another similar player had thrived in the same situation. Guy that left the team was no scrub at previous stops.

It's sort of like a Guns, Germs and Steel look at college basketball. Why one society boomed and another didn't.

"There are plenty of other original stories you could do," she said.

Yeah, on this size roster?

And to clarify a bit, I went through her first to try and get it set up as easily as possible. I'm not relying on the blessing of media relations.

Gotta love the SID who asks: "Why are you writing that story?"

 

[Shaggy]

Remember: They set the rules. You never promised to follow them.

Not only that, but this rule is bull ****. Once they're off the team, it's free reign. Call him and don't feel bad about it.

 

[MU_was_not_so_hard]

Had an SID give me some dirty looks the other day when I was talking to a kid who ran out of eligibility (read: will never graduate) after last season. The player caught on to the SID's looks and starting talking smack about him.

 

[Pringle]

Leo, I feel for you, man. On my beat, whenever a kid transfers or leaves the program, there's a story done about him. I think that's pretty standard - it amounts to an exit interview with the newspaper.

But if there's one harsh word said about the school or the staff, you've just guaranteed yourself a stern lecture and talking-to the next time you see the SID, usually along the lines of "You're going to hurt our recruiting" or "Why would you give that person a platform?"

Recently, when a player left school early for the pros, one of the coach's henchmen ... er, SIDs ... tracked down a reporter after the press conference to scold him for asking a tough question, creating a tense, ugly little scene for a couple seconds because the writer had basically tired of having every question and every word he wrote critiqued by sports information.

And of course if you hit the fan boards, they practically set off fireworks in celebration when coaches and SIDs set "rules" for the media. Even though they lap up every quote, no matter how mundane, made by a player. They still want the coaches to restrict access.

What a bizarre culture.

Recently when two local college rivals played a big game, a relative who is a teacher told me how cute it was that all the kids were talking smack to each other and saying things like, "Team A rules, Team B drools!"

I told said person that I just could no longer find it within myself to find anything about obsessive and combative fandom cute any longer, even if it was by little kids.

And I've strayed far off the subject by now.

 

[slappy4428]

The kid no longer goes to school there.. **** her.

 

[Leo Mazzone]

He's still in school, just not on the team. But I like the advice-- to a certain, figurative degree.

 

[slappy4428]

OK, even if he's not on the team, what right does the SPORTS information director have to control access to a student who isn't playing a SPORT

 

[hondo]

Why the hell would you even ask the SID if the kid isn't on the team any longer?

Your bad.

 

[SixToe]

**** the SID.

Track down that kid who left the team and stay on his ass to get the story.

SID gives you grief, tough ****. There's no "umbrella."

 

[Omar_dont_scare]

She also asked why I wanted to write the story, because he was off the team. I told her that was the reason why. No one else was writing it. Another similar player had thrived in the same situation. Guy that left the team was no scrub at previous stops.

It's sort of like a Guns, Germs and Steel look at college basketball. Why one society boomed and another didn't.

"There are plenty of other original stories you could do," she said.

Yeah, on this size roster?

And to clarify a bit, I went through her first to try and get it set up as easily as possible. I'm not relying on the blessing of media relations.

Gotta love the SID who asks: "Why are you writing that story?"

Dealt with a prick like this several years ago. I don't miss dealing with him.