goodell admits 'i didn't get it right'

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corrects ray rice fumble loud and clear with strong new nfl domestic violence policy:

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/11425377/nfl-implements-domestic-violence-penalties

c'mon, everyone. take your best shot at goodell now. my boy's heart is in the right place.
 
Re: goodell gets it right

Not that hard a thing to get right the first time. No credit earned or deserved.
 
Re: goodell gets it right

In case you're too lazy to hit the link:

1. First offense for "assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault" = 6-game suspension

2. Second offense = indefinite suspension, with possibility (but not guarantee) of reinstatement after one year
 
Re: goodell gets it right

We're supposed to say what a wonderful thing this is after the way Goodell ****ed up the situation on the first go-round? Please.
 
What a controversial stance for him to take. Where did he ever get the idea he didn't handle this right?
 
I give the guy credit for admitting he screwed up the first time. Yes, he still deserves the ridicule from mucking it up in the first place. But once the mistake is made and it's realized, the best course of action is to own it and do what you can to not repeat the mistake. That was done here.
 
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3_Octave_Fart said:
Not that hard a thing to get right the first time. No credit earned or deserved.

what he most deserves 'cred' for is taking a pretty severe public beating a and not shying away from it. that's all I'm sayin'. those who will now give him no credit are never going to change how tey view goodell.

he was doomed to be damned if he did, damned if he didn't after taking the initial misstep. oh, well.
 
shockey said:
what he most deserves 'cred' for is taking a pretty severe public beating a and not shying away from it.

No, that's what Ray Rice's girlfriend deserves credit for.

Can't blame Goodell, though, it has to be hard to forget what he saw on the mean streets growing up.
 
The bad optics of the Gordon suspension expedited this reform.
If he backs down from the 18-game schedule in the face of the league's health crisis, that would welcome support.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Can't blame Goodell, though, it has to be hard to forget what he saw on the mean streets growing up.

His driver takes him past some bad neighborhoods on the way to Bronxville every night.
 
Yeah, I have a hard time standing up to applaud someone who ****ed it up so badly the first time, but if he doesn't **** up so badly on the Rice ruling, maybe the penalties aren't as harsh now.

I'm happy with the end result, but I won't give Goodell any credit for it.
 
He's a stooge anyway. He gets 30 million bucks a year to have good hair and do exactly what his puppetmasters tell him. Let's not act like he is overseeing some public trust here, he is a houseboy for the super-wealthy.
 
Goodell is a stooge but DeMaurice Smith is a far bigger fraud. Goodell is the mouthpiece of his employers and for the most part looks out for their interests. What has Dee Smith accomplished for his players?
 
Still trying to figure out why he suspended a guy for an entire season over ... pot.

What, was Gordon trafficking kilos of it? I don't get it.
 
Pancamo said:
Goodell is a stooge but DeMaurice Smith is a far bigger fraud. Goodell is the mouthpiece of his employers and for the most part looks out for their interests. What has Dee Smith accomplished for his players?

I'm not sure what Dee Smith has to do with this conversation but he's made some incremental progress and has the players better organized than I've ever seen. Certainly a far better executive director than Upshaw was.
 
cranberry said:
Pancamo said:
Goodell is a stooge but DeMaurice Smith is a far bigger fraud. Goodell is the mouthpiece of his employers and for the most part looks out for their interests. What has Dee Smith accomplished for his players?

I'm not sure what Dee Smith has to do with this conversation but he's made some incremental progress and has the players better organized than I've ever seen. Certainly a far better executive director than Upshaw was.

I assume he means that Smith presided over the last CBA that allowed year-long suspensions for the miniscule amount of pot in Gordon's system (NFL's detection levels are much more stringent than WADAs), as well as the negative B sample.
 
Songbird said:
Still trying to figure out why he suspended a guy for an entire season over ... pot.

What, was Gordon trafficking kilos of it? I don't get it.

I agree, but I think with Gordon, he's probably had so many knocks against him that it becomes a situation where after the third or fourth offense, that's the punishment.

I'll be curious what Gordon's next move is. I don't see him going off quietly for the next year. Some people think he's going to continue to fight it. Didn't the Minnesota lineman do something similar, although I don't think that was a yearlong suspension.
 
shockey said:
3_Octave_Fart said:
Not that hard a thing to get right the first time. No credit earned or deserved.

what he most deserves 'cred' for is taking a pretty severe public beating a and not shying away from it. that's all I'm sayin'. those who will now give him no credit are never going to change how tey view goodell.

he was doomed to be damned if he did, damned if he didn't after taking the initial misstep. oh, well.

Gee, I bet that pretty severe public beating caused him to lose sleep at night. Typical ****ing politician taking "responsibility" for a complete ****ing ****-up, which means **** to all the women he insulted with Ray Rice's slap on the wrist. Let's see him give half his exorbitant salary to combating domestic violence. Then he can get some "cred." Until then, he can STFU.
 
I am genuinely curious. How would Roger Goodell giving away his salary, combat domestic violence? Money can make asshole men stop beating on women? And why should he give away half of his salary because Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out?

Whether you think Goddell handed out enough of a suspension or not, Roger Goodell wasn't the guy caught on camera dragging an unconscious woman out of an elevator. All those women you are talking about don't need to fear Roger Goodell. He's not their probllem. Men like Ray Rice are. I don't think Goodell handled it well. I agree it is backward ass when guys who fail a drug test are penalized more severely than Ray Rice was. But I'd never have your level of vitriol for Goodell. Unless you want to rail against Goodell, the villain here was Ray Rice. No one else.
 

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