Smallpotatoes
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Just tell what happened and let the readers make up their own minds.
Moderator1 said:I remember back in the prep days covering a tense end-of-season game. Winner goes to playoffs. Loser stays home. One team scores very late, needing extra point for tie and OT. Kicker has been area's best for years. Never misses.
He misses. Team stays home.
I felt bad mentioning his name in the story, but there was no choice. We kicked it around in the office and the consensus was "he missed the kick, it has to be said."
A few years later, I ran into the kid and we were talking about that. He looked at me and said, "I missed the kick, it had to be said."
Bottom line: Treat preps like anything else. Be fair. Don't sugarcoat, don't go out of your way to be harsh. Be fair.
GB-Hack said:The Last Boy Scout said:3) At this level, never refer to anything as "great."
What if the kid is a top 100 college prospect? Even if it's preps, if they're acknowledged as a hot recruit and a "great talent", I think you can make some exceptions to this.
I'll never tell said:speaking of all this prep stuff ... if we're putting on kid gloves for everything, what do you do when you know about some stuff (drinking beer, smoking dope) on a kids myspace page?
shotglass said:Contrarian shot on the scene.
1. Jargon is not a black-and-white, never-use-it type of issue. Jargon is often easily recognized ways of saying something. And wincing every time jargon is used is a case of over-thinking the issue.
2. Same thing with upsets. There ARE upsets in high school sports. Plain and simple. You DO usually have an idea of who's better than whom.
If you don't EVER want to use jargon, or you don't EVER want to refer to a high school result as an upset, that's your call. To me, it's taking some of the tools out of your toolbox. Of course, as that asshole Tony Sinclair says, "Always in mod-er-a-tion."
mike311gd said:I'll never tell said:speaking of all this prep stuff ... if we're putting on kid gloves for everything, what do you do when you know about some stuff (drinking beer, smoking dope) on a kids myspace page?
Until it becomes a legal matter, is it a story anyway? And who's to say everything on a Myspace page is the truth?
farmerjerome said:I've been writing negatively lately and I'm always afraid I'm going to regret it.
Last week I pointed out a kid that fumbled the ball, and later I wished I just attributed it to the team. It wasn't game-changing, it was just one mistakes in a series of mistakes.
Today, I used a little more anaylsis -- like the secondary was soft, inexperience played a role -- stuff like that.
Sometimes when we're forced to cover bad teams, we have to write the truth.
I'll never tell said:mike311gd said:I'll never tell said:speaking of all this prep stuff ... if we're putting on kid gloves for everything, what do you do when you know about some stuff (drinking beer, smoking dope) on a kids myspace page?
Until it becomes a legal matter, is it a story anyway? And who's to say everything on a Myspace page is the truth?
Well, I'd be willing to bet it's not photoshopped. Also, isn't this basically what happened to Matt Stafford when he was caught with drinking at the Talladega Superspeedway infield?
I'm just saying a 15-year-old kid boozin it up ain't a good thing. But it sure as hell ain't my job to be his father.
So you're saying I go up to the coach, "Hey, you seen your star LBs myspace page?" and then wait to write the story ... Star linebacker missed biggest rivalry game of the season due to an undisclosed injury. Panty waste coach cited HIPA.
outofplace said:shotglass said:Contrarian shot on the scene.
1. Jargon is not a black-and-white, never-use-it type of issue. Jargon is often easily recognized ways of saying something. And wincing every time jargon is used is a case of over-thinking the issue.
2. Same thing with upsets. There ARE upsets in high school sports. Plain and simple. You DO usually have an idea of who's better than whom.
If you don't EVER want to use jargon, or you don't EVER want to refer to a high school result as an upset, that's your call. To me, it's taking some of the tools out of your toolbox. Of course, as that asshole Tony Sinclair says, "Always in mod-er-a-tion."
Well put. It is silly to say there are no upsets at the high school level just because there is no betting. I can see avoiding writing that a team was favored, because then there is a question of who were they favored by. But if a winless team beats and undefeated, top-ranked opponent, it is an upset.
Moderator1 said:I remember back in the prep days covering a tense end-of-season game. Winner goes to playoffs. Loser stays home. One team scores very late, needing extra point for tie and OT. Kicker has been area's best for years. Never misses.
He misses. Team stays home.
I felt bad mentioning his name in the story, but there was no choice. We kicked it around in the office and the consensus was "he missed the kick, it has to be said."
A few years later, I ran into the kid and we were talking about that. He looked at me and said, "I missed the kick, it had to be said."
Bottom line: Treat preps like anything else. Be fair. Don't sugarcoat, don't go out of your way to be harsh. Be fair.
Eagleboy said:I had an issue of word choice this week when covering a game. One player missed two extra points and a game-winning field goal at the end of regulation, then his team lost at the end of overtime.
I put it down that he missed the extra points, indirectly leading to the loss, but because he was the team's tailback, I made sure to include that he also ran for 80 yards and two touchdowns. It was, in my opinion, a fair trade-off - after all, I wasn't nailing the kid, and I gave equal weight to his misses as I did his accomplishments.