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SellOut said:
I'll piggyback on this, but obviously lots of folks on this thread who are not in the biz any longer still have a passion for it, which is fantastic. Just wondering if that passion is still there, why are you doing something else (which may have been what I was trying to get at but couldn't quite say in my original post).

I look at my time in journalism a lot like I look at the first girl I loved - those were tremendous times, wouldn't trade 'em for anything, and I still love both journalism and that girl on some level, but I've moved on and discovered that a different job (and a different girl) can make me even happier. I love going out to free lance a few times a year. Love it. But I wouldn't go back full time even if you offered me more money than I make in my new job - I've moved on to a new thing that fulfills me in a different way.
 
1. The newsroom atmosphere and the people I worked with. Then again, that atmosphere had a bit of a graveyard quality to it by the end of my full-time newspaper career.
2. Hours, pay and the feeling of the axe looming over me. And the feeling that I was missing my son as he grew up (which I guess falls under "hours.")
3. Communications for a nonprofit (website news, social media, e-newsletters, video and lots of editing)
4. Mostly, yes. I don't think I'll be at my job forever, and I don't enjoy it like I did newspapers, but seeing my wife and kids a lot more makes up for it and then some. And I still string for the local paper, so I can get an occasional fix.

ETA: I was lucky enough to be able to leave the business on my own terms.
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

The big events. I loved the rush of covering a big event, nailing the story and seeing everyone reading it. And that could range everywhere from an NFL playoff game to a sectional championship basketball game. That, and being around sports all the time.

2. What do you miss least?

The 24/7 round-the-clock being chained to the job. You never knew when a story was going to break, when a stringer was going to flake out on you. My last year in the biz, I worked something like 31 consecutive days in the fall without a day off (I was a salaried SE of a 2-person staff, and my stringer budget had been slashed), often working split shifts -- desk in the morning, coverage in the evening. It about killed me.

3. What do you do now?

High school teacher. I still freelance a wee bit and do a ton of broadcasting, most of which is for a hobby company I operate on the side. I coached basketball for a few years, coached tennis for a couple.

4. Are you happier with your new career?

Yes and no. I love the 9-to-5 nature of the job, the extended vacations, the interaction with students. I also teach journalism and essentially publish the school newspaper and yearbook. I love being a part of the community, too. That part is wonderful. The part I hate is the lack of control -- I can get a completely different teaching schedule each year. This year, I'm teaching 5 different classes, which is a really bad schedule for someone in a school with more than 1,000 students. We also have a new state accountability system that is really nothing more than a thinly-veiled attempt at getting rid of experienced teachers and driving down our salaries (while tripling our work). The state also has suggested to schools that they get rid of elective classes, which means my journalism program could be in jeopardy the next time funding cuts come.

I've kind of realized my true calling was broadcasting/SID-type work. I'm searching high and low for that type of job, but it's difficult to do so without uprooting your family and/or taking an enormous pay cut, neither of which I can really do right now, as I'm the primary breadwinner in our home -- my wife works part-time.
 
Not being chained to the job is huge. When I'm done with my 8-hour day I don't think about work until I start working the next day. It's so liberating.
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

The camaraderie of the newsroom. It was great being around a group of people who were very smart, very opinionated and generally dealing with the same sort of insanity that you were. As much as working the desk during HS basketball season felt miserable, I haven't had a job yet where I was so constantly entertained by my co-workers or felt a bond that was nearly like that.

2. What do you miss least?

Having my girlfriend wake me out of my semi-slumber at 8 a.m. as she went to work, followed by me dragging in at midnight as she was going to bed and have that be our daily contact on an weekday. Or not being able to go out on the weekend because I had a Saturday night HS football game that I was volunteered to cover. At the end of the day, I looked around the newsroom and saw how many people were divorced or never married and thought long and hard about what I would be willing to sacrifice to keep doing a job I loved (and in a lot of ways still miss).

3. What do you do now?

I work in Marketing Communications for an industrial company, doing newsletters, press releases, website content, etc. I did straight tech PR for a number of years after I left; I was good at it but ultimately grew to hate the pressure to get placements and the feeling that my career hinged on being able to convince reporters to "play the game" and give my clients favorable coverage. I burned out, pure and simple. I've found Marketing Communications to be a lot more low-key and it lets me focus on writing, which is what I still love to do.

4. Are you happier with your new career?

I've been married to the girlfriend for almost 10 years now and we have two amazing kids, so I don't regret the decision to leave journalism at the time. What I regret is that we weren't mature enough to try to find a way to make it work despite the hardship she had to deal as being the significant other of a lower-level sports reporter in a major market trying to break through. (She also didn't drive at the time, which in LA in the late 1990s meant she basically didn't go out if I wasn't there.) I've been able to keep my finger in the business with freelance gigs and online writing, which has helped a lot since I can control my schedule and look for/accept work on my terms.
 
Laid off by GateHouse in January 2009. (Wow, has it really been 3 1/2 years?) I had what I honestly believe was the best job in the company: Chicago sports columnist. I had a lot of freedom, was doing OK financially and had a pretty large, loyal following. I also had a great run in the first part of my career with AP. I always considered myself to be extraordinarily lucky. Whether that affects my viewpoints here I'm not sure ...

1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?
2. What do you miss least?
3. What do you do now?
4. Are you happier with your new career?

1. Absolutely, the silliness of the press box. I loved making fun of my fellow scribes and even being made fun of. We had a bunch of truly interesting characters during my 16 years in Chicago: Mariotti, Telander, Lincicome, Gleason, Verdi, Morrissey, Bayless, Haugh, Terry Armour, Paul Sullivan, Sam Smith, Rick Gano, Phil Arvia, Imrem, Rosner, Cowley, Lacy Banks, and on and on and on. Some I liked a lot, some not so much (and one I despised ... guess who). Many days it was more interesting following the soap operas involving the scribes than it was following the (usually) lousy teams we covered.

I miss the actual writing. I miss an ordinary game turning into something special (case in point: no-hitters). I miss being able to call out the liars, crooks and jerks in the sports world. And yes, I admit it: Every once in awhile, I miss the ego boost that came with having a job that pretty much everybody thought was cool.

I miss the good folks at Copley and am still sad when I think about what happened to a great family-run newspaper company after they sold to the GateHouse clowns.

After leaving AP in 1998, I missed being part of huge coverage teams at huge events, especially the Olympics. Those were amazing gatherings of dedicated people working their butts off. At the end of pretty much every night, we'd be exhausted but proud of what we did.

The sound in a crowded press box or press room on deadline after a big event: almost total silence except for the tap-tap-tapping of 100 or more keyboards. (And the occasional anguished bellow when a computer ate a story or an editor was unreasonable.)

Oh, and the paycheck. Miss that, too.

2. Dealing with GateHouse management. I knew I was living on borrowed time because I would be deemed a luxury they would decide not to afford. That feeling truly sucked.

Being embarrassed as some (not all, but some) of my peers felt the need to pretend to laugh at the lame attempts at humor by the likes of Lovie Smith or Tom Kelly or Brian Urlacher or Jerry Krause. Nothing worse than kissing up to people who pretty much hate us.

Internet reader comments, especially Cubbie fans who were sure I loved the White Sox and White Sox fans who were sure I loved the Cubs.

While lots of people thought my job was cool, lots also thought I didn't really work for a living. I don't miss having to justify my work ethic.

Near the end, the deadlines got brutal. It's not easy writing an insightful column from a playoff game that ends 20 minutes after deadline.

3. For lack of better term, I guess I am semi-retired and being supported by my Sugar Mama wife. I work part-time at a country club, ref basketball and lacrosse and do some coaching. I still do some freelance writing, mostly financial and news pieces.

4. I am content, I have absolutely no regrets and I still consider myself to be a lucky guy. But I no longer have a career to be happy or unhappy about.
 
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SellOut said:
I'll piggyback on this, but obviously lots of folks on this thread who are not in the biz any longer still have a passion for it, which is fantastic. Just wondering if that passion is still there, why are you doing something else (which may have been what I was trying to get at but couldn't quite say in my original post).


For me, as I started to look at beginning a family, I couldn't figure out a way to do that properly while still working at a newspaper. If I stayed, my future wife would have to work just to keep us afloat because of my salary (or lack thereof), and we'd still have to be frugal if we wanted to raise children. I wouldn't have time to be around at night, with all the games to cover, and I'd be working weekends and traveling -- basically, I'd rarely be around. At a certain point, I realized that to stay in newspapers because I enjoyed it even though it would hurt any family I wanted to have seemed awfully selfish.
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

Actual journalism and storytelling. That means digging into a long-form narrative piece, which both of my main employers thankfully gave me more room to do than most newspapers nowadays. Or digging into a continuing news story and following the threads day after day. Going to the courthouse for documents. Calling sources. Following the money. Adding up disparate facts and figures until a coherent whole emerged. But, really, for me, narrative. Getting 100 inches to travel to northern Michigan and write about Ryan Shay, who died during the Olympic marathon trial, or 80 to write about a former high school football star's battle against heroin addiction. I miss beginnings, middles, and endings, and trying to arrange them for their greatest impact. And I miss the emails that would flood in after I nailed it.

Oh, and I'd be remiss to not mention that I also miss my friends and the newsroom and press box atmosphere. I keep in touch with many of them, some on nearly a daily basis.

2. What do you miss least?

Games and press conferences - and particularly press conferences. Don't get me wrong. There are tremendous pros to being on a major beat, whether it was covering the White Sox at home, which was kind of a training ground at The Times of Northwest Indiana between prep seasons, or Notre Dame football full-time, which I did at the South Bend Tribune and its sister publication, Irish Sports Report. It was fun, in some ways, to be that wired into the minutia of a program or organization. On the other hand, my patience was severely tried by how choreographed it could be. Someone in a post above mentioned feeling insignificant covering one of probably 5,000 high school football games going on in a given night in America. And I had plenty of moments like that, too, sitting in 35-degree weather covering an early-season prep softball game or track meet in the rain. But listening to Charlie Weis ramble on about the next opponent's special teams coach could be so much worse. Same with being one of 30 people in a room pretending to care one iota about what was going to come out of Jimmy Clausen's mouth. Obviously, a lot of the most important work doesn't occur in those settings. But you still have to be there. Some people love it. I'll put it this way: Some people also love remodeling their own kitchen. In both cases, I can understand why, but it's just not for me.

My child was not born yet while I still worked mostly late nights, and college football could be a pretty manageable schedule, so the scheduling issues never affected me as much as a lot of people here. I do look back wistfully on my 20s sometimes and wonder if I missed out on a lot of Friday and Saturday nights that I'll never get back. Then again, I also spent a lot of Friday nights in places like Boston and Chapel Hill and San Francisco, so I would say it evened out.

3. What do you do now?

I just finished law school in June after 3 1/2 years and two schools. I'm taking the bar exam next week. For the first time in my life, I think I'd rather be going to a press conference.

I also get to do a little bit of freelancing. For example, I've written several non-sports stories for my university alumni magazine. I've written about nuclear technology development, Mesopotamian archaeology, economics. You name it. And that's a lot of fun.

4. Are you happier with your new career?

Not necessarily happier, per se, but it was time to try something else, and I am happier having made the leap than I would have been had I not. There are some similarities, particularly regarding researching different threads and molding them into a consistent, coherent whole. In journalism, that means a narrative feature or a news story that makes sense of things for a general readership. In law, that means putting together a winning argument, and usually dozens of different winning arguments within a single litigation. I was fortunate enough this school year to be essentially the main person, other than my supervising professor, in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois from start to the (for us) disappointing finish. It wasn't completely unlike covering a major news story all the way through, although there is a different kind of pressure - not worse, not better, just different - when you are an interested party to the matter than when you are simply an outsider shining a light in a corner. My real job starts in September.

Oh, and whether I'm happier or not, I'm definitely healthier. We'll see how that goes when the real world starts back up in a few weeks.
 
Valid points but there's this, too: Many in the business are looking to get out and wondering if the grass is greener, to use a bad cliche. Many may have no choice, so it is good to see there's life after this game.

And some of us, like, oh, me, WERE OUT and got back in anyway. Glad I did, I'm much happier professionally than I was four years ago and I hope I'm working my last job.
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

I'd say I miss the people, but luckily my last shop has laid off so many people that almost all of my favorite people are now in normal-person jobs and I get to see them more often socially now than I did when I was in the biz. I do miss that nobody in my circle gets a (lady) boner for breaking news like I do, nor do they really care about my insightful Hot Sports Opinions or in-depth analysis of our favorite teams. Also, I feel like I'm the only person who understands the new NBA CBA, but that's a different topic ...

2. What do you miss least?

The hours. The bureaucracy. The pay. The feeling that no matter how hard you worked, it ultimately didn't matter because papers always went the cowardly "last in, first out" route when laying people off. Working holidays. Never seeing family, let alone friends or even making new friends outside of the business.

3. What do you do now?

I work for a management consulting firm - so I'm a bit like Anna Kendrick in "Up in the Air", except I'm not the one laying people off to their faces.

4. Are you happier with your new career?

Absolutely. I haven't been this mentally stimulated since college (I have a degree in Economics and am gearing up to pursue my Masters in the same discipline). I'm on the road a lot - more than I was at times when I was in the business - but my days are days. They're 8-4 and I'm done. I don't have to worry about going out for drinks and having the phone ring with breaking news. I can take a vacation with vacation time, not furlough time. I get quarterly bonuses and performance-based raises. I live in a world where performance and results are measured in a quantitative, tangible fashion - you produce or you don't ... it's not left up to the personal opinion of an editor/reader or pageviews and web traffic.

On top of that, I've found my love of sports again. I get to be a FAN of my favorite teams - I get to enjoy the victories and mire in the losses without worrying about deadlines or story lengths or cheering in the press box. I actually treated myself to season tickets this year to one of my favorite baseball teams and am on track to make it to nearly 50 home games. I enjoy getting to the park three hours early before a game, which I never enjoyed before. OK - maybe that's because we throw down beers in the parking lot for 2.5 of those hours, but still ...
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?
- Being among the last ones in the open-air press box after a Saturday MLS game, just mellowing out for a few minutes as the only sound in the venue is the groundskeepers. Then grabbing a drink with the dudes from other outlets.
- Being one of the few journalists who showed up for practice virtually every single day on my pro beat. I like to think coaches and players see that. Even if they don't, it's a good opportunity to really get to know players' on-field tendencies.
- The challenge of staying on top of everything I needed to on multiple beats with desk shifts and such. Of course, then it became rote.
- Making fun of the prep score seekers, the old dudes who just HAD to have the local high school baseball score before their colostomy bag gave out. Get a life, shut-ins. Go to the game. Support the kids if you care so much.
- Being the guy who was called on my days off to cover for co-workers who acted like lazy jerks called in sick.
- At my last one and a half journalism jobs (long story), I miss the budget and the mandate to produce great stories.

2. What do you miss least?
- Having to act like high school sports were more important than they actually were in the particular market where I worked.
- The pay, but at the time it was OK. Just knew it would be unsustainable going forward. Gotta grow up sometime.
- The hours, I guess. But this was the life I had signed up for.
- Wondering just how important what I was doing actually was. Had told myself early on that what I did had impact on people. Questioned that as soon as the paychecks started squeaking in (a print journalism paycheck doesn't exactly "roll in"). When the verdict became "Not really, not much at all," I realized I was only doing the job because I enjoyed it, not because I was actually bringing anything people couldn't get somewhere else. I think that's the basic struggle of all media now: what can I bring that's unique, and worthwhile?
- Daily looking into the future and realizing that if I hit 30 without a plan to get out, I might never get out. And also knowing that if I hit 35 and still had to cover regular preps as part of my assignments, I would have long since burnt out. Could barely try to relate to high school kids when I first started (though they could be interesting; group of girls soccer players spent much of an interview telling me my hair made me look like either Orlando Bloom or Elijah Wood as Frodo; while they assured me that none of this was a bad thing, the interview, while fun, was largely a shambles to transcribe, and I resolved to only interview one or two people at a time from then on). Couldn't imagine being some dude in his mid-30s, possibly with kids of my own, shoving a tape recorder into teenagers' faces and acting like either of us was getting something positive out of the experience.
- Never feared a layoff. Knew they were coming. Figured I'd get out before then.
- Finally got out when I realized that the budget and "big-time" vibe at my last journalism gig would not translate to just about anywhere else I could end up. The job that was supposed to reignite my passion actually extinguished it, since I knew that anything following would be a letdown.

3. What do you do now?
- I'm in education. Academia, to be exact.
- It's my mandate to keep up on technology and the use of it, and to constantly examine more efficient ways to produce media and disseminate information to media consumers. It's a much better pursuit than constantly worrying about tomorrow's newspaper, or today's newscast.

4. Are you happier with your new career?
- Immeasurably.
- I have the opportunity to work with students and help them think more critically while not necessarily becoming cynical. I also get to learn a few things from them about the nature of how media are consumed by people who have used the Internet since they were in the womb, and who reject newspapers as a viable medium and potential workplace.
- I also enjoy learning how the use of social media has changed fandom and communication in regard to consumers creating and finding their own media rather than relying on "trained journalists!!" and official team statements.
- Based on where I thought sports media were going when I made the choice to put in motion a plan to get out eight years ago, I receive pretty much daily validation that my decision to finally walk away four years ago was absolutely the correct one.
- A couple years ago, there was an individual here who became offended when I was saying people should leave the newspaper business. This person said something to the effect of "Wow, you want a job where you're not beholden to a boss! I wish you luck, I really do." Well, that obviously insincere well-wishing proved prophetic. I largely keep my own hours, get to choose which projects I pursue, have significant autonomy, and make more money than I ever did as a journalist. Finally, I feel like I'm paid for the work I do. I feel extremely lucky.
- Also, I get to be a fan again, which is something I really underestimated. From the time I really dove into sports journalism until I got out (about a decade), it was tough to be a fan. The moment when I knew I wanted to just be a fan again and would relish the opportunity was at the U.S. vs. England friendly in Soldier Field in 2005. First national team game I hadn't drawn a paycheck to watch. Just enjoying the game, and not having to take notes . . . wonderful. I like getting there 10 minutes before the start, and leaving when I please. I choose when to go, and what to go to. I am no longer beholden to multiple schedules of events that I am expected attend and record for posterity.

Regarding the question of the choice to get out and whether the grass was greener:

The grass was not only greener, it surrounded a lush garden with tomatoes of all colors and tastes, plus red seedless grapes, a fruitful apple tree and a pristine fresh-water lake to swim in. I chose to get out because, back in 2005-06, I felt that in five years most of my peers who were forward-thinking and had the opportunity to try to get out (read: those with bachelor's degrees, either no family or an understanding family, the will to relocate if necessary, and the guts to realize that newspapers, the career they loved, were on the verge of catastrophe) . . . would do one of three things:
1. Law school. Because the skills of researching and writing translate, and because every single individual who gets out of law school makes a boatload of money. :)
2. Teaching. Two years for the teaching credential and/or master's, right?
3. Grad school. Not sure in what. Likely English, but that could lead to another dead end.

I chose what I chose for many reasons. The final nail was when I had finished my master's and was looking for the next opportunity, and a friend said he got his high school teaching credential in two years. Well, I could get a Ph.D. in a similar amount of time, have more prestige, more upward mobility, more impact, and a better standard of life as far as spending time with my family and dealing with students who could be expected to be highly motivated.

I did not anticipate the many opportunities my brethren have found in technical writing or editing for book companies. I never thought SD and PR jobs would have materialized at the rate we all would have hoped, but some have found a good landing spot there. I do think that the state of the media business now is such that most current newspaper jockeys, if they have not put themselves at the forefront of newer media (hey, whatever did happen to SoSueMe, Mr. "I'm a print JOURNALIST!!!"), will have a challenging time.

So, yes, got out, very happy, no regrets whatsoever, glad others have also landed on their feet.
 
Norrin Radd said:
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?
- Being among the last ones in the open-air press box after a Saturday MLS game, just mellowing out for a few minutes as the only sound in the venue is the groundskeepers. Then grabbing a drink with the dudes from other outlets.
- Being one of the few journalists who showed up for practice virtually every single day on my pro beat. I like to think coaches and players see that. Even if they don't, it's a good opportunity to really get to know players' on-field tendencies.
- The challenge of staying on top of everything I needed to on multiple beats with desk shifts and such. Of course, then it became rote.
- Making fun of the prep score seekers, the old dudes who just HAD to have the local high school baseball score before their colostomy bag gave out. Get a life, shut-ins. Go to the game. Support the kids if you care so much.
- Being the guy who was called on my days off to cover for co-workers who acted like lazy jerks called in sick.
- At my last one and a half journalism jobs (long story), I miss the budget and the mandate to produce great stories.

2. What do you miss least?
- Having to act like high school sports were more important than they actually were in the particular market where I worked.
- The pay, but at the time it was OK. Just knew it would be unsustainable going forward. Gotta grow up sometime.
- The hours, I guess. But this was the life I had signed up for.
- Wondering just how important what I was doing actually was. Had told myself early on that what I did had impact on people. Questioned that as soon as the paychecks started squeaking in (a print journalism paycheck doesn't exactly "roll in"). When the verdict became "Not really, not much at all," I realized I was only doing the job because I enjoyed it, not because I was actually bringing anything people couldn't get somewhere else. I think that's the basic struggle of all media now: what can I bring that's unique, and worthwhile?
- Daily looking into the future and realizing that if I hit 30 without a plan to get out, I might never get out. And also knowing that if I hit 35 and still had to cover regular preps as part of my assignments, I would have long since burnt out. Could barely try to relate to high school kids when I first started (though they could be interesting; group of girls soccer players spent much of an interview telling me my hair made me look like either Orlando Bloom or Elijah Wood as Frodo; while they assured me that none of this was a bad thing, the interview, while fun, was largely a shambles to transcribe, and I resolved to only interview one or two people at a time from then on). Couldn't imagine being some dude in his mid-30s, possibly with kids of my own, shoving a tape recorder into teenagers' faces and acting like either of us was getting something positive out of the experience.
- Never feared a layoff. Knew they were coming. Figured I'd get out before then.
- Finally got out when I realized that the budget and "big-time" vibe at my last journalism gig would not translate to just about anywhere else I could end up. The job that was supposed to reignite my passion actually extinguished it, since I knew that anything following would be a letdown.

3. What do you do now?
- I'm in education. Academia, to be exact.
- It's my mandate to keep up on technology and the use of it, and to constantly examine more efficient ways to produce media and disseminate information to media consumers. It's a much better pursuit than constantly worrying about tomorrow's newspaper, or today's newscast.

4. Are you happier with your new career?
- Immeasurably.
- I have the opportunity to work with students and help them think more critically while not necessarily becoming cynical. I also get to learn a few things from them about the nature of how media are consumed by people who have used the Internet since they were in the womb, and who reject newspapers as a viable medium and potential workplace.
- I also enjoy learning how the use of social media has changed fandom and communication in regard to consumers creating and finding their own media rather than relying on "trained journalists!!" and official team statements.
- Based on where I thought sports media were going when I made the choice to put in motion a plan to get out eight years ago, I receive pretty much daily validation that my decision to finally walk away four years ago was absolutely the correct one.
- A couple years ago, there was an individual here who became offended when I was saying people should leave the newspaper business. This person said something to the effect of "Wow, you want a job where you're not beholden to a boss! I wish you luck, I really do." Well, that obviously insincere well-wishing proved prophetic. I largely keep my own hours, get to choose which projects I pursue, have significant autonomy, and make more money than I ever did as a journalist. Finally, I feel like I'm paid for the work I do. I feel extremely lucky.
- Also, I get to be a fan again, which is something I really underestimated. From the time I really dove into sports journalism until I got out (about a decade), it was tough to be a fan. The moment when I knew I wanted to just be a fan again and would relish the opportunity was at the U.S. vs. England friendly in Soldier Field in 2005. First national team game I hadn't drawn a paycheck to watch. Just enjoying the game, and not having to take notes . . . wonderful. I like getting there 10 minutes before the start, and leaving when I please. I choose when to go, and what to go to. I am no longer beholden to multiple schedules of events that I am expected attend and record for posterity.

Regarding the question of the choice to get out and whether the grass was greener:

The grass was not only greener, it surrounded a lush garden with tomatoes of all colors and tastes, plus red seedless grapes, a fruitful apple tree and a pristine fresh-water lake to swim in. I chose to get out because, back in 2005-06, I felt that in five years most of my peers who were forward-thinking and had the opportunity to try to get out (read: those with bachelor's degrees, either no family or an understanding family, the will to relocate if necessary, and the guts to realize that newspapers, the career they loved, were on the verge of catastrophe) . . . would do one of three things:
1. Law school. Because the skills of researching and writing translate, and because every single individual who gets out of law school makes a boatload of money. :)
2. Teaching. Two years for the teaching credential and/or master's, right?
3. Grad school. Not sure in what. Likely English, but that could lead to another dead end.

I chose what I chose for many reasons. The final nail was when I had finished my master's and was looking for the next opportunity, and a friend said he got his high school teaching credential in two years. Well, I could get a Ph.D. in a similar amount of time, have more prestige, more upward mobility, more impact, and a better standard of life as far as spending time with my family and dealing with students who could be expected to be highly motivated.

I did not anticipate the many opportunities my brethren have found in technical writing or editing for book companies. I never thought SD and PR jobs would have materialized at the rate we all would have hoped, but some have found a good landing spot there. I do think that the state of the media business now is such that most current newspaper jockeys, if they have not put themselves at the forefront of newer media (hey, whatever did happen to SoSueMe, Mr. "I'm a print JOURNALIST!!!"), will have a challenging time.

So, yes, got out, very happy, no regrets whatsoever, glad others have also landed on their feet.

You might be missing writing a little bit. :)
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

The atmosphere and banter around the newsroom and the press box. Whether times were good or bad, there was always the feeling that we were all in it together. I always liked the jokes and good-natured shots we'd take at each other, and the way it all seemed to come together at deadline (most of the time). Also, the feeling of "winning" a big story, when we had something no one else had. That's priceless.

2. What do you miss least?

Looking over my shoulder all the time waiting for the grim reaper. Watching my industry crumbling under me. Feeling like a blacksmith or buggy-whip manufacturer watching a Model T chug past.

3. What do you do now?

I edit trade magazines.

4. Are you happier with your new career?

Not really. This feels like a job that merely pays the bills rather than a career. It's more like something I have to do than something I want to do. The subject of my magazines doesn't interest me the way sports does and always has. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy and grateful to have this -- and the regular hours are a plus, too. That said, I'd love to get back into the sports business in some capacity. But there's no way I'm ever going back into the newspaper business.

And to answer the addendum question: I was shoved out by a layoff. So as I (and Nuke LaLoosh) said, I'm just happy to be here and I'm taking it one day at a time.
 
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

I truly miss the thrill and challenge of writing a compelling story; crafting the lead, piecing the story together like a puzzle on deadline. I miss the creative outlet it provided. I miss the rush and satisfaction of making deadline and of reading the finished product the next morning in print.
I miss the atmosphere of the event, being able to have a perspective unique from the spectator.
I miss the camaraderie of the newsroom and in press boxes. There's a sense of shared experience that few can relate to outside of the field. Luckily, I found this in my later incarnation as a high school coach.

2. What do you miss least?

While I liked being able to wake up late, and the cyclical nature of the job (in season vs. off season), I don't miss giving up nights and weekends and missing the opportunities they presented. I think I almost take that for granted now, which at times leads me to romanticize my early 20s journalism life.

3. Reason for leaving:

There weren't any opportunities for advancement in my market, and I wasn't willing to move to find opportunities. I was in a serious relationship with my future wife and wanted to be able to lead a more orthodox existence with the ability to even take a vacation, save money, live with a sense of spontaneity.

4. What do you do now?

I left to become a high school language arts teacher (including journalism and advising the school newspaper) and cross country and track coach. After five years, I recently relocated and am considering other options. It was a great run, but I found myself overwhelmed and overworked as an English teacher who coached year-round at a running powerhouse (save for Thanksgiving week and part of Christmas break) while also balancing the hours required to advise the school newspaper.

5. Are you happier with your new career?

I found great joy in the successes of my new job: the state championships, the journalism awards earned by students, interacting with young people in different ways and the acknowledgement of being a keystone in a young person's life. But, like journalism, there is also the tedium, the paperwork, the pay. I will probably be back one day, but I need time to reflect on it.

I can say I am truly happy to be a fan. I began reporting at my university my freshman year of college, and because of it I always wore the cap of objectivity. But once I left journalism, I found myself falling in love with my alma mater, which I thought would never happen organically. I really enjoy being able to enjoy that fandom.
 
93Devil said:
Norrin Radd said:
1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?
- Being among the last ones in the open-air press box after a Saturday MLS game, just mellowing out for a few minutes as the only sound in the venue is the groundskeepers. Then grabbing a drink with the dudes from other outlets.
- Being one of the few journalists who showed up for practice virtually every single day on my pro beat. I like to think coaches and players see that. Even if they don't, it's a good opportunity to really get to know players' on-field tendencies.
- The challenge of staying on top of everything I needed to on multiple beats with desk shifts and such. Of course, then it became rote.
- Making fun of the prep score seekers, the old dudes who just HAD to have the local high school baseball score before their colostomy bag gave out. Get a life, shut-ins. Go to the game. Support the kids if you care so much.
- Being the guy who was called on my days off to cover for co-workers who acted like lazy jerks called in sick.
- At my last one and a half journalism jobs (long story), I miss the budget and the mandate to produce great stories.

2. What do you miss least?
- Having to act like high school sports were more important than they actually were in the particular market where I worked.
- The pay, but at the time it was OK. Just knew it would be unsustainable going forward. Gotta grow up sometime.
- The hours, I guess. But this was the life I had signed up for.
- Wondering just how important what I was doing actually was. Had told myself early on that what I did had impact on people. Questioned that as soon as the paychecks started squeaking in (a print journalism paycheck doesn't exactly "roll in"). When the verdict became "Not really, not much at all," I realized I was only doing the job because I enjoyed it, not because I was actually bringing anything people couldn't get somewhere else. I think that's the basic struggle of all media now: what can I bring that's unique, and worthwhile?
- Daily looking into the future and realizing that if I hit 30 without a plan to get out, I might never get out. And also knowing that if I hit 35 and still had to cover regular preps as part of my assignments, I would have long since burnt out. Could barely try to relate to high school kids when I first started (though they could be interesting; group of girls soccer players spent much of an interview telling me my hair made me look like either Orlando Bloom or Elijah Wood as Frodo; while they assured me that none of this was a bad thing, the interview, while fun, was largely a shambles to transcribe, and I resolved to only interview one or two people at a time from then on). Couldn't imagine being some dude in his mid-30s, possibly with kids of my own, shoving a tape recorder into teenagers' faces and acting like either of us was getting something positive out of the experience.
- Never feared a layoff. Knew they were coming. Figured I'd get out before then.
- Finally got out when I realized that the budget and "big-time" vibe at my last journalism gig would not translate to just about anywhere else I could end up. The job that was supposed to reignite my passion actually extinguished it, since I knew that anything following would be a letdown.

3. What do you do now?
- I'm in education. Academia, to be exact.
- It's my mandate to keep up on technology and the use of it, and to constantly examine more efficient ways to produce media and disseminate information to media consumers. It's a much better pursuit than constantly worrying about tomorrow's newspaper, or today's newscast.

4. Are you happier with your new career?
- Immeasurably.
- I have the opportunity to work with students and help them think more critically while not necessarily becoming cynical. I also get to learn a few things from them about the nature of how media are consumed by people who have used the Internet since they were in the womb, and who reject newspapers as a viable medium and potential workplace.
- I also enjoy learning how the use of social media has changed fandom and communication in regard to consumers creating and finding their own media rather than relying on "trained journalists!!" and official team statements.
- Based on where I thought sports media were going when I made the choice to put in motion a plan to get out eight years ago, I receive pretty much daily validation that my decision to finally walk away four years ago was absolutely the correct one.
- A couple years ago, there was an individual here who became offended when I was saying people should leave the newspaper business. This person said something to the effect of "Wow, you want a job where you're not beholden to a boss! I wish you luck, I really do." Well, that obviously insincere well-wishing proved prophetic. I largely keep my own hours, get to choose which projects I pursue, have significant autonomy, and make more money than I ever did as a journalist. Finally, I feel like I'm paid for the work I do. I feel extremely lucky.
- Also, I get to be a fan again, which is something I really underestimated. From the time I really dove into sports journalism until I got out (about a decade), it was tough to be a fan. The moment when I knew I wanted to just be a fan again and would relish the opportunity was at the U.S. vs. England friendly in Soldier Field in 2005. First national team game I hadn't drawn a paycheck to watch. Just enjoying the game, and not having to take notes . . . wonderful. I like getting there 10 minutes before the start, and leaving when I please. I choose when to go, and what to go to. I am no longer beholden to multiple schedules of events that I am expected attend and record for posterity.

Regarding the question of the choice to get out and whether the grass was greener:

The grass was not only greener, it surrounded a lush garden with tomatoes of all colors and tastes, plus red seedless grapes, a fruitful apple tree and a pristine fresh-water lake to swim in. I chose to get out because, back in 2005-06, I felt that in five years most of my peers who were forward-thinking and had the opportunity to try to get out (read: those with bachelor's degrees, either no family or an understanding family, the will to relocate if necessary, and the guts to realize that newspapers, the career they loved, were on the verge of catastrophe) . . . would do one of three things:
1. Law school. Because the skills of researching and writing translate, and because every single individual who gets out of law school makes a boatload of money. :)
2. Teaching. Two years for the teaching credential and/or master's, right?
3. Grad school. Not sure in what. Likely English, but that could lead to another dead end.

I chose what I chose for many reasons. The final nail was when I had finished my master's and was looking for the next opportunity, and a friend said he got his high school teaching credential in two years. Well, I could get a Ph.D. in a similar amount of time, have more prestige, more upward mobility, more impact, and a better standard of life as far as spending time with my family and dealing with students who could be expected to be highly motivated.

I did not anticipate the many opportunities my brethren have found in technical writing or editing for book companies. I never thought SD and PR jobs would have materialized at the rate we all would have hoped, but some have found a good landing spot there. I do think that the state of the media business now is such that most current newspaper jockeys, if they have not put themselves at the forefront of newer media (hey, whatever did happen to SoSueMe, Mr. "I'm a print JOURNALIST!!!"), will have a challenging time.

So, yes, got out, very happy, no regrets whatsoever, glad others have also landed on their feet.

You might be missing writing a little bit. :)

smart, on both accounts.
 
Awesome thread. I replied earlier but it seems to have gone missing.

1. What do you miss most about sports journalism?

The rush of reporting the hell out of a story, busting your butt to get it done and then seeing the final product in your hands. I miss the people I worked with and the freedom I had.

2. What do you miss least?

Management, the pay, the crazy hours, the constant fear of losing my job.

3. What do you do now?

I started my career as a firefighter for a city with a population of about 120,000 17 months ago.

<b>4. Are you happier with your new career?</b>

Unbelievably. It is a new challenge every day and some of the things we get to do are amazing. It's hard work but very rewarding. On the even better side, I get to spend an enormous amount of time with my family (we work 48 straight hours and then get 96 hours off) and the pay has allowed us to live a life we never would have been able to had I still worked at the paper, including just recently purchasing our first home. It's been a tremendous change, and it's all been for the better. As someone mentioned previously in the thread, I've also found I enjoy watching sports MUCH more now. All in all, starting this career was one of the best things that have ever happened to me.

Oh, and they eliminated my position about two months after I left the newspaper.
 
1. Being in the press box/media center/newsroom. Lifelong friendships and memories made there.
2. The daily uncertainty and stress over whether I would still have a job when the new day dawned
3. Working in athletic communications at community college 1.4 miles from home
4. Are you kidding? Absolutely
 
OK, so 100% of former journalists (in this very unscientific poll) are happier since they bolted -- or were booted.

That should say a lot to readers on this board.

I, as a current newspaperman, am very happy for all of those who got out.

May I -- and many of us -- soon follow your lead
 
Christ, the social media BS. I'd forgotten that, in terms of bull**** I had to deal with. I might actually rank that...not ahead of the low pay and weird hours as a thing I don't miss, but it's damn close.

I'm sorry. I realize this is the wave of future times and the direction the business is going, and some people have found ways to make it an illuminating part of the news process...and such. But I'm glad I'm in a job now where I don't have to pretend I don't loathe Twitter and all it hath wrought with every fiber of my being.
 

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