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Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 6.5%
  • No

    Votes: 64 83.1%
  • Moot point - he won't win either way.

    Votes: 8 10.4%

  • Total voters
    77
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

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No, but he has to have a Clinton supporter on the ticket if he doesn't.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

If he does, it will be a sign that he thinks he can't win without her...

For the record, I think if he puts her on the ticket, he wins...
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

JayFarrar said:
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No, but he has to have a Clinton supporter on the ticket if he doesn't.

Like?
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

I don't think so.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

I think if Obama asks Hillary to be his Veep--and she accepts; I'm not sold that she'd sign on to be anyone's VP--it will hurt him more than it helps. She is so polarizing; there is no middle ground. Either people love her or hate her.

Also, Obama seems to be about changing the political climate and trying to do what's right for the nation. So he names one of the more noted political insiders to his cabinet?
 
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Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

I think Obama loses if he adds Hillary. Too much baggage and too much recent history. I think a lot of people who went with Obama as a breath of fresh air will not like the business-as-usual feeling adding the Clinton name would bring.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

They're saying that 40 percent of her supporters will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee... She's also been doing incredibly well despite being all but counted out for some time now...

That says a lot...
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

If they run together they both nullify what they've been saying for months.

He says he's all about change in Washington.

She says he's not qualified and that he was giving one pretty speech while she was running the country and dodging sniper fire as first lady. He's also elitist, not the beer-and-a-shot working girl Hillary is.

So.. as a "change" candidate he's going to pick someone who has been in DC since '92?

And she wants to be the VP to an elitist, out of touch guy who has no experience?

Obama will do just fine with at least a dozen other candidates. no way he even seriously considers Hillary.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

My first, and maybe only choice would be Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland.
He was Clinton's first choice for veep and be brings a lot to an Obama ticket.
Namely Ohio, plus experience, but not the DC variety. And he's firmly linked to the Clinton camp.
Gen. Wes Clark is name that has been making the rounds as well.
But I think Strickland is the right way to go.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

Some have speculated that if Obama wins the nomination, Hillary would benefit by McCain winning and then running in 2012 assuming McCain is a one-term president.

Would anybody put that past her?
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

JayFarrar said:
My first, and maybe only choice would be Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland.
He was Clinton's first choice for veep and be brings a lot to an Obama ticket.
Namely Ohio, plus experience, but not the DC variety. And he's firmly linked to the Clinton camp.
Gen. Wes Clark is name that has been making the rounds as well.
But I think Strickland is the right way to go.

Agree completely. If I'm Obama, I go with Strickland and all but guarantee a win in what could be the most important state in the election.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

Mizzougrad96 said:
Some have speculated that if Obama wins the nomination, Hillary would benefit by McCain winning and then running in 2012 assuming McCain is a one-term president.

Would anybody put that past her?

Hillary would never sniff the nomination. Not after the **** she's pulled the last two months.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

Nope. He doesn't even have to put one of her supporters on the ticket either.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

Mizzougrad96 said:
JayFarrar said:
My first, and maybe only choice would be Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland.
He was Clinton's first choice for veep and be brings a lot to an Obama ticket.
Namely Ohio, plus experience, but not the DC variety. And he's firmly linked to the Clinton camp.
Gen. Wes Clark is name that has been making the rounds as well.
But I think Strickland is the right way to go.

Agree completely. If I'm Obama, I go with Strickland and all but guarantee a win in what could be the most important state in the election.

Strickland -- at least for now -- is saying he would not accept an offer to be VP.

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Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

They always say that. Then when they take the VP slot they can say, "Well, I wanted to make sure I would be a key part of the administration..."

If they don't get it, they can say they didn't want it...

It's kind of like most coaching searchs... :D
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

hockeybeat said:
I think if Obama asks Hillary to be his Veep--and she accepts; I'm not sold that she'd sign on to be anyone's VP--it will hurt him more than it helps. She is so polarizing; there is no middle ground. Either people love her or hate her.

Also, Obama seems to be about changing the political climate and trying to do what's right for the nation. So he names one of the more noted political insiders to his cabinet?

I'm a pretty strong Obama supporter. But if Hillary is on the ticket, I don't think I can vote for him. I seriously think she would be the most like Dubya of any of the three candidates, in terms of governing style (very insular, partisan, tight-lipped, combative with the media, etc.). Obviously, she wouldn't have too much impact as a VP, but she'd be one breath away from the presidency. And with Obama being the first black president, I don't think you can discount that.

If Hillary were on the ticket, I'd try to vote for McCain. But if he put Romney on there, I'm not sure what I'd do. Is anybody from SportsJournalists.com running? I can be bought rather easily.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

I can't imagine she'd want it. That, for Obama anyway, would be the ideal scenario. Offer her the gig, which she declines to work for the people of the state of New York, etc., etc., then pick who the hell he wanted in the first place.
Unless you're VP for an easily manipulated simpleton like GWB, Veep is a TERRIBLE job for a person of ability and ambition, which Clinton is. U.S. Senator on the other hand, is an excellent gig.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

If he wants to win the almighty Puerto Rico, then yes.
 
Re: Does he have to put her on the ticket to win?

It will be a political calculation, and Obama has enough time to gauge where he's at in July and see if he needs her or not.

For what it's worth, Survey USA does state-by-state polls where they include potential VP candidates. Obama/Edwards polls far higher than pretty much every other possibility.
 

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