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AVSE

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It looks as if a position will be opening at the Antelope Valley Press in Palmdale, California. I'm unsure as to when an ad will be posted, but unless I get frozen, it should be in the next couple weeks. If you're interested in hard work and low pay at a paper that is family owned, doesn't believe in the web and not laying people off, feel free to IM me or show that you're really interested and send me an email.
 
AVSE said:
It looks as if a position will be opening at the Antelope Valley Press in Palmdale, California. I'm unsure as to when an ad will be posted, but unless I get frozen, it should be in the next couple weeks. If you're interested in hard work and low pay at a paper that is family owned, doesn't believe in the web and not laying people off, feel free to IM me or show that you're really interested and send me an email.

unless I get frozen

Outing alert — AVSE is Cirroc ...

UnfrozenCavemanLawyer.jpg
 
I thought he was Ted Williams.
And are you selling this job or steering people away from it? Your post kind of contradicts itself in a couple places.
 
Hmm. Not usually the way it works in here, AVSE. We would like an ad as soon as possible.

But I will give props to Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer. Buddy of mine from college was a bodybuilder and kind of a meathead, yet under that facade was damn smart. He was a journalist for a while, then quit to go to law school. I have always, always called him Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
 
The work is hard, it's a family-owned paper, trying to be up front about the position is all. And playthrough, sorry for a couple things: First, I won't have an actual ad until the end of the week at the earliest, just trying to get a jump on things. Second, I don't get the caveman lawyer references.
 
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It's obvious this guy has a feeling about something. No reason to cut him off. If it doesn't pan out, nuke the thread. But don't give a few enterprising young'ns one less shot at getting a gig.
 
This one is worth applying for. When they come at you with an insultingly low offer, chances are really good you'll get a fantastic offer from another shop about a week later, because the karma will be in your favor. :)
 
The paper is what it is, but if this is a heads-up from the inside, it's a poor statement on the staff. If you don't like the place enough to run it down before there's an opening, hit the bricks. It's not indentured servitude.
 
Steak Snabler said:
AVSE said:
It looks as if a position will be opening at the Antelope Valley Press in Palmdale, California. I'm unsure as to when an ad will be posted, but unless I get frozen, it should be in the next couple weeks. If you're interested in hard work and low pay at a paper that is family owned, doesn't believe in the web and not laying people off, feel free to IM me or show that you're really interested and send me an email.

unless I get frozen

Outing alert — AVSE is Cirroc ...

UnfrozenCavemanLawyer.jpg

"I am but a simple caveman, frightened by your modern things such as InDesign, color print, digital photographs, floating ads and cross-country parents."
 
AVSE said:
The work is hard, it's a family-owned paper, trying to be up front about the position is all. And playthrough, sorry for a couple things: First, I won't have an actual ad until the end of the week at the earliest, just trying to get a jump on things. Second, I don't get the caveman lawyer references.
It's an old SNL skit.

http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2008/08/classic-snl-clip-of-day-unfrozen.html
 
Am I reading this correctly?

AVSE said:
... doesn't believe in the web

So this paper has no web site and no interest in establishing a web presence? If that's the case, then this paper clearly is crap.
 
BigSleeper said:
Am I reading this correctly?

AVSE said:
... doesn't believe in the web

So this paper has no web site and no interest in establishing a web presence? If that's the case, then this paper clearly is crap.

jesus christ, sleeper. before you start tossing stones, at least know what the **** you're throwing at.
 
TrooperBari said:
BigSleeper said:
Am I reading this correctly?

AVSE said:
... doesn't believe in the web

So this paper has no web site and no interest in establishing a web presence? If that's the case, then this paper clearly is crap.

You are at least partly incorrect.
http://www.avpress.com/

Fine. I stand corrected. But a site built entirely without java? What is this? 1999?

Tom Petty said:
BigSleeper said:
Am I reading this correctly?

AVSE said:
... doesn't believe in the web

So this paper has no web site and no interest in establishing a web presence? If that's the case, then this paper clearly is crap.

jesus christ, sleeper. before you start tossing stones, at least know what the **** you're throwing at.

Fair enough. Now having visited their web site and finding what little info I can, let me elaborate further.

What set me off was that in the first post, announcing the potential opening, specifically pointed out no web or at least suggested that no real attention is paid toward online. And this is something worth pointing out? In this day and age, any daily newspaper/news organization that does nothing or very little to enhance their online presence is doing themselves, their readers and any potential readers an incredible disservice. It's shocking to me that a paper so close to L.A. could be so far out of the loop.

The AVP may do some wonderful journalism, have a great staff and be a true asset to the community. That's not my issue. However, if that web site -- which appears to generate little or no ad revenue -- is a sign of how they approach their overall business, then I'd have serious concerns about the organization's future.
 
Saw this on jjobs today:

Company: Antelope Valley Press
Position:
Sports Editor
Location:
Palmdale, California
Job Status: Full-time
Salary: Negotiable
Ad Expires:
November 10, 2008
Job ID: 982538
Website: http://www.avpress.com

Description:
SPORTS EDITOR

Needed: A Sports Editor with talent, tenacity and temperament to lead a talented young staff covering a two-county area with about two dozen prep teams in need of quality community-oriented coverage. Other job requirements involve interest in diversity of off-campus sporting and recreation activities. The work is in the fastest growing area of Los Angeles County, with some targeted coverage of national sports beat, but the emphasis is local, local, local, for a national award-winning community daily. Ideal candidate has minimum two years success in supervision and direction of an intensely team-oriented approach to community sports coverage. Will consider move-up from assistant sports position. Compensation weighed on basis of experience and demonstrated achievement. Excellent benefits in area with affordable housing base and proximity to Southern California attractions. Send materials to Antelope Valley Press, Human Resources, Box 4050, Palmdale, Calif., 93590-4050 or e-mail to [email protected].

http://www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=982538
 
Jeremy Goodwin said:
Saw this on jjobs today:

Company: Antelope Valley Press
Position:
Sports Editor
Location:
Palmdale, California
Job Status: Full-time
Salary: Negotiable
Ad Expires:
November 10, 2008
Job ID: 982538
Website: http://www.avpress.com

Description:
SPORTS EDITOR

Needed: A Sports Editor with talent, tenacity and temperament to lead a talented young staff covering a two-county area with about two dozen prep teams in need of quality community-oriented coverage. Other job requirements involve interest in diversity of off-campus sporting and recreation activities. The work is in the fastest growing area of Los Angeles County, with some targeted coverage of national sports beat, but the emphasis is local, local, local, for a national award-winning community daily. Ideal candidate has minimum two years success in supervision and direction of an intensely team-oriented approach to community sports coverage. Will consider move-up from assistant sports position. Compensation weighed on basis of experience and demonstrated achievement. Excellent benefits in area with affordable housing base and proximity to Southern California attractions. Send materials to Antelope Valley Press, Human Resources, Box 4050, Palmdale, Calif., 93590-4050 or e-mail to [email protected].

http://www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=982538

So he basically resigned/got fired after posting this?

... Huh.
 

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