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A while back, David (Look! A Man Barbecuing!) Brooks tried to pry Ronald Reagan loose from ol' Dutch's inexcusable 1980 campaign kickoff speech in which he talked about (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) "states rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi, about half a mile from where they'd dug Goodman, Schwerner and Chaney out from under the ***.
Well, Bobo's colleagues seem a mite perturbed. Krugman buried him on a blog a few days ago and today, Bob Herbert applies the final cockpunch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=2&th&emc=th&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

I love the fact that the NYT seems to be turning into the Village Voice circa 1970. More writer's feuds please!
 
A cockpunch would be less painful to Brooks than the beating that Herbert applied.
 
This must be wrong. People, of whom many weren't yet born when Reagan was president, keep telling me the Gipper was grandfatherly and warm. In fact Reagan's memory seems to get warmer and warmer as his dead body gets colder and colder.
 
I love how Herbert buried him with facts and logic.

Brooks column was whiny.
 
cranberry said:
This must be wrong. People, of whom many weren't yet born when Reagan was president, keep telling me the Gipper was grandfatherly and warm. In fact Reagan's memory seems to get warmer and warmer as his dead body gets colder and colder.

You talk with a lot of 18-year olds about Ronald Reagan?

Or was that just a bit of message board hyperbole?
 
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The second part was.

He should have just pointed out the fact that Reagan was a soulless old piece of mauve cardigan and left it at that.
 
Singapore Slim said:
The second part was.

He should have just pointed out the fact that Reagan was a soulless old piece of mauve cardigan and left it at that.

Come on. Give the man his props. He had a friendly smile and nice hair.

Can we get a Kanye West verdict on Reagan?
 
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
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Kanye'll just tell him not to get his tummy tucked.

Weak.

Stuck-in-bed-after-a-tummy-tuck-weak, or Gary Burghoff's-left-arm-weak?

Insensitive-toward-a-man-who-just-lost-his-mother-weak.

A mother of a mother, who I never knew and whose son I'll never meet, and don't wish to (we get it, you speed up the samples ... weak).

Insensitive is when I laugh in your face. Unless you're Kanye, get off the your shiny unicorn.
 
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
Kanye'll just tell him not to get his tummy tucked.

Weak.

Stuck-in-bed-after-a-tummy-tuck-weak, or Gary Burghoff's-left-arm-weak?

Insensitive-toward-a-man-who-just-lost-his-mother-weak.

A mother of a mother, who I never knew and whose son I'll never meet, and don't wish to (we get it, you speed up the samples ... weak).

Insensitive is when I laugh in your face. Unless you're Kanye, get off the your shiny unicorn.

That almost was a coherent thought.
 
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
Kanye'll just tell him not to get his tummy tucked.

Weak.

Stuck-in-bed-after-a-tummy-tuck-weak, or Gary Burghoff's-left-arm-weak?

Insensitive-toward-a-man-who-just-lost-his-mother-weak.

A mother of a mother, who I never knew and whose son I'll never meet, and don't wish to (we get it, you speed up the samples ... weak).

Insensitive is when I laugh in your face. Unless you're Kanye, get off the your shiny unicorn.

NO OUTING!
 
Leonard Pitts' column on it took a lot of guts, since he wrote it shortly after Reagan died:

http://www.aasfe.org/contests/2005winners/div4-generalcommentary.pdf
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
Kanye'll just tell him not to get his tummy tucked.

Weak.

Stuck-in-bed-after-a-tummy-tuck-weak, or Gary Burghoff's-left-arm-weak?

Insensitive-toward-a-man-who-just-lost-his-mother-weak.

A mother of a mother, who I never knew and whose son I'll never meet, and don't wish to (we get it, you speed up the samples ... weak).

Insensitive is when I laugh in your face. Unless you're Kanye, get off the your shiny unicorn.

NO OUTING!

****, my bad.

Well, now that we're on the mare together ... nice sweaters, there, pouty.
 
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
The Good Doctor said:
Singapore Slim said:
Kanye'll just tell him not to get his tummy tucked.

Weak.

Stuck-in-bed-after-a-tummy-tuck-weak, or Gary Burghoff's-left-arm-weak?

Insensitive-toward-a-man-who-just-lost-his-mother-weak.

A mother of a mother, who I never knew and whose son I'll never meet, and don't wish to (we get it, you speed up the samples ... weak).

Insensitive is when I laugh in your face. Unless you're Kanye, get off the your shiny unicorn.

I'm not Kanye, but my mother did grow up with Donda. That was ****ed up, simple and plain, whether anyone here knew her, me or anyone else.

The problem with Reagan is that his legacy has become victory in the Cold War, something that's managed to trump his indefensible takes on race. But eh, there's really no reason for me to expect anyone to care about that. **** Cheney's take on apartheid was in lock-step with Reagan's, and no one cared enough about that to think, "really, do we want this man as the vice-president?" Or, de facto president, if you prefer. Draw your own conclusions from that.

Anyway, back to Kanye...Kanye was right when he said Bush doesn't care about black people. Bush clearly hasn't given black folks a second thought. After all, black people don't tend to vote Republican and the GOP tends not to need their votes (at least so long as Democrats keep trying to win elections by winning about 43 per cent of white votes and every black person but Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes). He's savvy enough to sprinkle color into his administration, but he's frighteningly indifferent toward black folks. That's foul, but it doesn't make me angry.

Reagan, on the other hand, DID care about black people...in a really bad way. He was openly antagonistic toward black people and didn't even try to pretend otherwise.

And even though that was blatantly obvious at every turn, people ate that **** up and continue to do so. Says as much about this country as it does about Ronnie.
 
After floating the failed Huckabee trial baloon, Brooks now wants to talk about McCain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/opinion/13brooks.html?em&ex=1195102800&en=8c6f2937970a008f&ei=5087
 

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