College question

[Starting17]

I've been covering a college football team for what will be my third season this fall and looking to transfer to a 4-year university to get my BA. I'm curious though for those in the business does where you graduated from really end up mattering down the road in terms of getting a job over someone else? I live in Washington, I'm looking at: UW, WSU, Iowa State, U of Florida, U of Texas and Indiana University.

Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!

 

[SCEditor]

It matters to a certain degree. As a hiring editor, I know some schools' journalism programs offer more than others. If I get a resume from a Missouri graduate (or Northwestern, Syracuse, etc...), I'm more likely to stop and read that resume. I know those schools do a better job than most in educating journalism students.

However, what's more important to me is whether the recent graduate gained experience outside of the classroom setting. The last two hires I've made were graduates of small private schools. What set them apart was the work they did outside of the classroom -- student media, freelance work and internships.

So my answer to your question would be this: Go to whatever school you wish to attend, but remember your work outside the classroom often means more than the degree you'll receive.

 

[Starting17]

It matters to a certain degree. As a hiring editor, I know some schools' journalism programs offer more than others. If I get a resume from a Missouri graduate (or Northwestern, Syracuse, etc...), I'm more likely to stop and read that resume. I know those schools do a better job than most in educating journalism students.

However, what's more important to me is whether the recent graduate gained experience outside of the classroom setting. The last two hires I've made were graduates of small private schools. What set them apart was the work they did outside of the classroom -- student media, freelance work and internships.

So my answer to your question would be this: Go to whatever school you wish to attend, but remember your work outside the classroom often means more than the degree you'll receive.

Thank you! Yeah my main concern is not coming from "that" journalism school like a Missouri or Syracuse and having that be a decisive factor. I'm hoping my work before my degree will also be of help

 

[CCaple]

I'll mostly echo SCEditor's thoughts.

No doubt you'll get a better classroom journalism education at Missouri than, say, UW (only picking on UW because that's where I went to school). And that kind of education can never hurt. But in my experience, I think the journalistic opportunities you have while in school can be just as valuable -- if not more valuable -- than what you learn in a classroom (though that's still important, too). As SCEditor noted, look at external factors like the quality (and accessibility) of the student newspaper, opportunities for internships, freelancing, etc. In some cases, those external factors are what end up helping you forge the relationships that lead to full-time jobs after graduation. If hiring editors are familiar with your work and think highly of you because of it, they're not going to pass on you simply because you didn't attend a journalism powerhouse.

Just my two cents. I don't think you can go wrong with any of those schools you listed. Good luck.

 

[Alma]

It matters to a certain degree. As a hiring editor, I know some schools' journalism programs offer more than others. If I get a resume from a Missouri graduate (or Northwestern, Syracuse, etc...), I'm more likely to stop and read that resume. I know those schools do a better job than most in educating journalism students.

However, what's more important to me is whether the recent graduate gained experience outside of the classroom setting. The last two hires I've made were graduates of small private schools. What set them apart was the work they did outside of the classroom -- student media, freelance work and internships.

So my answer to your question would be this: Go to whatever school you wish to attend, but remember your work outside the classroom often means more than the degree you'll receive.

In my experience, Mizzou, Indiana, NW and Syracuse grads have had it drilled into their heads that they are good, that they are at a great school, that they're doing good and important work, and that message, delivered repeatedly, tends to make them more confident in their skillset and better at hitting the ground running. (Many of them are also pretty dang talented.)

There are, of course, a few grads from those schools who think they're better than they actually are and end up being an irritating drag on the staff.

 

[Starting17]

I'll mostly echo SCEditor's thoughts.

No doubt you'll get a better classroom journalism education at Missouri than, say, UW (only picking on UW because that's where I went to school). And that kind of education can never hurt. But in my experience, I think the journalistic opportunities you have while in school can be just as valuable -- if not more valuable -- than what you learn in a classroom (though that's still important, too). As SCEditor noted, look at external factors like the quality (and accessibility) of the student newspaper, opportunities for internships, freelancing, etc. In some cases, those external factors are what end up helping you forge the relationships that lead to full-time jobs after graduation. If hiring editors are familiar with your work and think highly of you because of it, they're not going to pass on you simply because you didn't attend a journalism powerhouse.

Just my two cents. I don't think you can go wrong with any of those schools you listed. Good luck.

Glad to hear from a UW grad, thank you. I know UW also let's their football writers travel which I find valuable as well where other schools don't.

 

[mediaguy]

Sorry, how exactly do other schools keep "their" football writers from traveling? Do you write for your school's site?

 

[Walter Lippmann]

I sincerely hope the OP has the money to attend these out-of-state universities without needing to take on a lot if debt. The OP might also have an issue getting these top beats as a transfer student.

What is the likelihood of getting into these journalism programs?

The notion schools "let" writers travel is a bit off-the-mark. The relevant question is whether they pay travel expenses,

 

[Starting17]

Sorry, how exactly do other schools keep "their" football writers from traveling? Do you write for your school's site?

I visited WSU/Murrow and asked if their writers (football) go to the teams away games. They said no. I know because I work alongside them that UW sends them to a few including this past seasons bowl game. School newspaper not schools site

 

[HookEm2014]

Almost every school newspaper will let you travel to games, it's just often up to the writer to foot travel expenses. Though as said above, it may be tough to reach the football beat at some of the school newspapers as a transfer student. Then again, talent tends to rise quickly.

 

[Starting17]

Almost every school newspaper will let you travel to games, it's just often up to the writer to foot travel expenses. Though as said above, it may be tough to reach the football beat at some of the school newspapers as a transfer student. Then again, talent tends to rise quickly.

I was told the writers don't foot the bill for travel

 

[boundforboston]

One potential thing to consider: How many of the state's papers cover that school regularly? For example, I don't think many papers in Florida have someone stationed in Gainesville. Going to UF could allow you to string for (perhaps) the Miami Herald, Orlando Sentinel and Palm Beach Post on occasion. Bylines and connections there would look good. A school such as Iowa State may have someone stationed there or heading there regularly, reducing your freelance opportunities.

 

[Mark2010]

Are you saying a college newspaper pays for a student reporter to travel --- in some cases thousands of miles --- to road games? I have never heard of that.

Back in the day, whatever travel we did to cover stuff was on our own dime. And this was long, long before the days of the internet or when every game was televised. Our school was lucky to have maybe 3 or 4 of its 11 games on TV when I was a student. Fortunately, geography was such that you could make a day trip for most conference games. Otherwise, you'd write it off the radio broadcast --- did plenty of that.

 

[mediaguy]

Don't pick a college based on whether they "allow" students to cover road games. If traveling with football is a real priority, find a college whose student paper travels on its own ...

 

[Mark2010]

As to the original question, I will echo what others have said. It's more about what YOU actually do (clips, videos, websites, etc.) than the name of the school.

I've been to Pullman, Washington. It's a bit remote, but there's absolutely no reason one can't do excellent work there, especially given all the resources and technology today.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Wazzu is an excellent school. You should get ample opportunity to write for the Evergreen, and to also string if you're aggressive, as many papers won't send anyone to Pullman for football, basketball, etc.

You could also pick up some opportunities string for papers whose teams play at Idaho. The Moscow Daily News has so much stuff to cover I'm sure they also need help either stringing or in the office.

Opportunities are where you find them.

 

[ADodgen]

The one thing I think "that school" -- whatever it ends up being for you -- can help with is a strong alumni network. I enjoy tremendously the networking I do with the Texas Exes.

 

[awriter]

One potential thing to consider: How many of the state's papers cover that school regularly? For example, I don't think many papers in Florida have someone stationed in Gainesville. Going to UF could allow you to string for (perhaps) the Miami Herald, Orlando Sentinel and Palm Beach Post on occasion. Bylines and connections there would look good. A school such as Iowa State may have someone stationed there or heading there regularly, reducing your freelance opportunities.

I would also add one other thing to consider -- the number of papers near your school. Even if they cover your U, there might be opportunities to cover stuff the beat writer can't get to or maybe help out with high schools.