Christine Brennan on Erin Andrews

[hondo]

http://thebiglead.com/?p=15844

I have a question: Did Christine Brennan hint that Erin Andrews was asking for it by not really discouraging all of the adulation male college-age fans have for her?

 

[Armchair_QB]

This has already been covered on the Sports & News board but yes she did.

 

[JayFarrar]

Brennan said this afternoon:

Twitter is a great format for many things, but not for serious reflection on an important topic such as this.
When I said "play to the frat house," it was not meant to be pointed specifically at Erin, and I'm sorry if it was taken that way. It's a comment I use often in speeches and while talking to younger women to guide myself and all of us on how to live our lives as women in sports journalism. I don't want us playing to the frat house; I want us talking to the 12-year-old girl on the couch watching sports with her Mom or Dad.

As the hundreds of women who work in sports media know, we often still have to be twice as good to get half the credit. It's not fair, but it's the way it is. I have fought for years for opportunities for women in sports journalism, and will continue to do so. For those who think I am against Erin, nothing could be further from the truth. What happened to her is terrible, and she will always have my full support.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/07/columnist-raises-some-hackles-with-erin-andrews-tweet.html

But, umm, to answer the question, yes, and she got called out for it and issued the soon to become standard, "twitter isn't long enough so what I wrote is being taken out of context" excuse.
Kudos.

 

[hondo]

This has already been covered on the Sports & News board but yes she did.

Yeah, but I thought it was an interesting enough angle on the subject to merit a separate discussion. For example, could a male columnist have said anything remotely on the same level?

 

[hondo]

Brennan said this afternoon:

Twitter is a great format for many things, but not for serious reflection on an important topic such as this.
When I said "play to the frat house," it was not meant to be pointed specifically at Erin, and I'm sorry if it was taken that way. It's a comment I use often in speeches and while talking to younger women to guide myself and all of us on how to live our lives as women in sports journalism. I don't want us playing to the frat house; I want us talking to the 12-year-old girl on the couch watching sports with her Mom or Dad.

As the hundreds of women who work in sports media know, we often still have to be twice as good to get half the credit. It's not fair, but it's the way it is. I have fought for years for opportunities for women in sports journalism, and will continue to do so. For those who think I am against Erin, nothing could be further from the truth. What happened to her is terrible, and she will always have my full support.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/07/columnist-raises-some-hackles-with-erin-andrews-tweet.html

But, umm, to answer the question, yes, and she got called out for it and issued the soon to become standard, "twitter isn't long enough so what I wrote is being taken out of context" excuse.
Kudos.

Exactly what did Erin Andrews have to do twice as good to get half the credit in her ascent to her current job?

 

[Armchair_QB]

This has already been covered on the Sports & News board but yes she did.

Yeah, but I thought it was an interesting enough angle on the subject to merit a separate discussion. For example, could a male columnist have said anything remotely on the same level?

I think you know the answer to that.

 

[Peytons place]

Did Brennan get away with saying it? Seems to me she's been reamed for the comment, hence, the clarification, so wondering whether a guy could have gotten away with saying it seems like a moot point.

 

[Mediator]

Erin Andrews is the Anna Kournikova of sports media. She draws all the crazy idolatry for her beauty and is a complicated colleague for a lot of women in the business.

I think Jeff Pearlman said she was an OK broadcaster, and the attention she gets for that is way out of proportion to the quality of her work.

So something like this happens and it churns up a lot of stuff. Unfortunately, only a small part of that pertains to the actual crime committed against her.

 

[Beaker]

Did Brennan get away with saying it? Seems to me she's been reamed for the comment, hence, the clarification, so wondering whether a guy could have gotten away with saying it seems like a moot point.

Agreed.

 

[gutenberg]

There are a lot of female sports journalists who specialize in the written word who are incredibly jealous of Erin Andrews.

The things some of these women say behind Erin's back reek with bitterness and envy. One "big-time woman sportswriter" was called out by a male writer with a "sounds like someone is envious" dig and the woman's profane response would have shocked a hard-core sailor.

The more she rambled and the more she cussed, the more we all were convinced she was jealous that the much-younger Andrews is a) wealthier; b) classier and c) 500 times better known.

 

[Peytons place]

Wow gutenburg, sounds like someone is enamored with Ms. Andrews.

And the "big-time woman sportswriter" you referenced, should have told the male writer who accused her of being envious that his comment is sexist and condescending, and that women can be vocally critical of other women in their field without being envious of their "wealth" and "class."

 

[JackReacher]

Erin Andrews is the Anna Kournikova of sports media. She draws all the crazy idolatry for her beauty and is a complicated colleague for a lot of women in the business.

I think Jeff Pearlman said she was an OK broadcaster, and the attention she gets for that is way out of proportion to the quality of her work.

So something like this happens and it churns up a lot of stuff. Unfortunately, only a small part of that pertains to the actual crime committed against her.

Who cares what Jeff Pearlman thinks about her broadcasting skills? Come up with your own opinion for that. She's on everyone's TV. Not just Jeff's.

 

[Mediator]

Pearlman blogged it today (http://jeffpearlman.com/), I'm attributing.

And the worst sniping I've heard about Andrews has come, hands down, from male writers.

 

[CRM]

Brennan goes into the situation about Andrews in this radio interview.

<a href="http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?p=10575">850 The Buzz Interview</a>

 

[JackReacher]

Brennan goes into the situation about Andrews in this radio interview.

<a href="http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?p=10575">850 The Buzz Interview</a>

I think I've heard enough from her, thank you.

 

[slappy4428]

Brennan goes into the situation about Andrews in this radio interview.

<a href="http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?p=10575">850 The Buzz Interview</a>

I think I've heard enough from her, thank you.

Might be one of the only times I agree with you. But hearing anything from Brennan is always too much.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

The only fair way to settle this: a Bra and Panty Tickle Fight.

 

[DanOregon]

God knows, you'll never hear any sniping about a male writer or broadcaster on this board.

And as much as many male broadcasters might not want to think it - their appearance has as much to do with why they're on TV as anything else. The on-air guys might not think it because most of the hiring people are other men and the "sex" thing might not be out there. I'm trying to figure out who the heftiest Sportscenter regular is who isn't an ex-pro. It's also why you see more on-air guys investing in hairplugs
I'm sure more of them would realize it if there were more blogs talking about how "hot" Neil Jackson or Stuart Scott is, with pictures of them out for a jog or hitting the weights or perhaps a cell phone shot or two from the locker room.

 

[gutenberg]

Wow gutenburg, sounds like someone is enamored with Ms. Andrews.

And the "big-time woman sportswriter" you referenced, should have told the male writer who accused her of being envious that his comment is sexist and condescending, and that women can be vocally critical of other women in their field without being envious of their "wealth" and "class."

Interesting that you who wasn't there for the conversation termed the male writer's dig to the woman "as sexist and condescending." Reveals more about you than you know.

None of us who were actually there found it that way. Perhaps you are God!

And not enamored with Ms. Andrews. She wouldn't know me by name though she has said hello when passing by on two occassions.

Just was reporting what I know firsthand: That I have heard national-caliber women say not-so-nice things about her.

You know, the same kind of things that male writers do about male writers with a higher status.

 

[gutenberg]

God knows, you'll never hear any sniping about a male writer or broadcaster on this board.

And as much as many male broadcasters might not want to think it - their appearance has as much to do with why they're on TV as anything else. The on-air guys might not think it because most of the hiring people are other men and the "sex" thing might not be out there. I'm trying to figure out who the heftiest Sportscenter regular is who isn't an ex-pro. It's also why you see more on-air guys investing in hairplugs
I'm sure more of them would realize it if there were more blogs talking about how "hot" Neil Jackson or Stuart Scott is, with pictures of them out for a jog or hitting the weights or perhaps a cell phone shot or two from the locker room.

Well said, DanOregon.