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BET Founder Criticizes Obama
By PHILIP ELLIOTT,AP
Posted: 2008-01-13 23:36:11
COLUMBIA, S.C. (Jan. 13) - One of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent black supporters said Sunday he was insulted by the characterization by rival Barack Obama's presidential campaign of her remarks about the civil rights movement.

Bob Johnson, the nation's first black billionaire and founder of the BET cable television network, said Obama's campaign had acted dishonestly and had distorted Clinton's remarks about Martin Luther King Jr.

Johnson also seemed to hint at Obama's acknowledged youthful drug use, an issue that led another Clinton campaign official to resign. Johnson later denied that was the case.

Clinton was quoted just before the New Hampshire primary as saying King's dream of racial equality was realized only when President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Some black leaders have criticized that remark as suggesting Johnson deserved more credit than the slain civil rights leader for the passage and enactment of major civil rights legislation.

While introducing Clinton at Columbia College on Sunday, Johnson criticized Obama's camp.

"That kind of campaign behavior would not be reasonable with me for a guy who says 'I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier,"' said Johnson, owner of the NBA's Charlotte Bobcats. He commented after Clinton said in a televised interview Sunday that she hoped the campaign would not be about race.

Johnson also said Obama's own record should give voters pause.

"To me, as an African American, I am frankly insulted the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues - when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood; I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book - when they have been involved," Johnson said.

Obama wrote about his teenage drug use - marijuana, alcohol and sometimes cocaine - in his memoir, "Dreams from My Father."

Johnson later said his comments referred to Obama's work as a community organizer in Chicago "and nothing else. Any other suggestion is simply irresponsible and incorrect," he said in a statement released by Clinton's campaign.
 
Bashes Obama, then clarifies it later through Clinton's campaign? Punt.
 
Doesn't Johnson have another episode of the Boondocks to suppress? The January 7th edition was pulled. Funnily enough, it appeared to rip into BET mercilessly, as the comic strip had done in the past.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/techspace/2008/01/video-by-any-me.html

Wonder why it didn't air?
 
GB-Hack said:
Doesn't Johnson have another episode of the Boondocks to suppress? The January 7th edition was pulled. Funnily enough, it appeared to rip into BET mercilessly, as the comic strip had done in the past.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/techspace/2008/01/video-by-any-me.html

Wonder why it didn't air?

He left BET in January of 2006. Viacom owns BET.
 
Pancamo said:
GB-Hack said:
Doesn't Johnson have another episode of the Boondocks to suppress? The January 7th edition was pulled. Funnily enough, it appeared to rip into BET mercilessly, as the comic strip had done in the past.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/techspace/2008/01/video-by-any-me.html

Wonder why it didn't air?

He left BET in January of 2006. Viacom owns BET.
He sold out for 3 billion, his ex wife got somewhere close to half.
No single person in history made more money exploiting T & A than Bob Johnson. Hefner, Guccione and Larry Flynt combined don't come close to what he built by originating the only TV channel aimed directly at African Americans. And he did it by televising booty rattling videos 24-7.
 
Well, it's nice to see 'yab is looking out for black popular culture with his usual nuanced racial attitudes.
Two things -- this really isn't as big a deal as it sounds, although the media loves black-on-black argument. . Makes them feel balanced. Johnson's influence generally -- HIS influence, not his former network's -- is pretty slim. MacGruder's not the only one who's taken him onSecond -- my customary demurral -- come on, zeke. Barack put his drug use on the table. It's going to come up.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
Well, it's nice to see 'yab is looking out for black popular culture with his usual nuanced racial attitudes.
Two things -- this really isn't as big a deal as it sounds, although the media loves black-on-black argument. . Makes them feel balanced. Johnson's influence generally -- HIS influence, not his former network's -- is pretty slim. MacGruder's not the only one who's taken him onSecond -- my customary demurral -- come on, zeke. Barack put his drug use on the table. It's going to come up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR2008011102000.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
The most recent example of the old guard's apparent aversion to Obama was Andrew Young's febrile YouTube ramblings about Bill Clinton being "every bit as black as Barack Obama" and his armchair speculation that Clinton had probably bedded more black women during his lifetime than the senator from Illinois -- as if racial identity could be transmitted like an STD. This could be dismissed as a random instance of a politician speaking out of turn were it not part of an ongoing pattern.

Interesting read, if you haven't already done so. There does seem to be a real dislike of Obama by the usual suspects aka self appointed black leaders. Maybe, like Bill Clinton's phony Sista Soulja routine, this is all a con. After all, Al Sharpton, Andrew Young and Jesse Jackson are more likely to cost Obama more votes than they can generate.
 
'yab, thank you for your continuing concern about the place of African Americans in our national life. I'm sure your opinion of the "Sister Souljah" moment was exactly the same in '92.
Cobb's piece is interesting.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
'yab, thank you for your continuing concern about the place of African Americans in our national life. I'm sure your opinion of the "Sister Souljah" moment was exactly the same in '92.
Cobb's piece is interesting.
Come one, what rational and mildly intelligent person didn't understand what Bill's Sista Soulja moment was all about. It was the definition of Bill Clinton's national political existence.
 
The problem with the age divide is, the older voters are the ones who historically vote in greater numbers — and the older black voters will go for Hillary.

I'll believe the "youth wave" when I see it in a primary. It's easier to skew the demographic in a caucus (like Iowa), where the turnout is low.
 
Football_Bat said:
The problem with the age divide is, the older voters are the ones who historically vote in greater numbers — and the older black voters will go for Hillary.

I'll believe the "youth wave" when I see it in a primary. It's easier to skew the demographic in a caucus (like Iowa), where the turnout is low.
On the one hand, it is somewhat refreshing that Sen. Clinton is getting the African American support she seems to garner. That there isn't a knee jerk reaction that says a black needs to vote for a black. Which contradicts Gloria Steinem's recent rant that she's supporting Hillary because she's a women. On the other hand, anyone who gives anything to any Clinton must understand that she'll do anything for you, as long as it is in her interest to do so and she was going to do it any way. Obama seems the more genuine and honest politician.
 
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
Well, it's nice to see 'yab is looking out for black popular culture with his usual nuanced racial attitudes.
Two things -- this really isn't as big a deal as it sounds, although the media loves black-on-black argument. . Makes them feel balanced. Johnson's influence generally -- HIS influence, not his former network's -- is pretty slim. MacGruder's not the only one who's taken him onSecond -- my customary demurral -- come on, zeke. Barack put his drug use on the table. It's going to come up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR2008011102000.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
The most recent example of the old guard's apparent aversion to Obama was Andrew Young's febrile YouTube ramblings about Bill Clinton being "every bit as black as Barack Obama" and his armchair speculation that Clinton had probably bedded more black women during his lifetime than the senator from Illinois -- as if racial identity could be transmitted like an STD. This could be dismissed as a random instance of a politician speaking out of turn were it not part of an ongoing pattern.

Interesting read, if you haven't already done so. There does seem to be a real dislike of Obama by the usual suspects aka self appointed black leaders. Maybe, like Bill Clinton's phony Sista Soulja routine, this is all a con. After all, Al Sharpton, Andrew Young and Jesse Jackson are more likely to cost Obama more votes than they can generate.


Gee, Obama doesn't think he needs to kiss antique ass to win.

Sweet.
 
Football_Bat said:
The problem with the age divide is, the older voters are the ones who historically vote in greater numbers — and the older black voters will go for Hillary.

I'll believe the "youth wave" when I see it in a primary. It's easier to skew the demographic in a caucus (like Iowa), where the turnout is low.
Gee, thanks for slamming us here in Iowa. The turnout low? If damn near 500,000 showed up for a caucus, that's pretty good, compared to 1/2 that in '04.

I have to go with Fen on this one (which is a suprise) about Johnson. He has as much pull as a goat has with a Sherpa. Johnson has been in the Clinton's backpocket for a long ass time.

Turning this into a race war with South Carolina is comical, but not surprising. I did, however, had a problem with Mrs. Obama saying "ain't no black people in Iowa" comment at the Trumpet Awards show recently. What? 51,000 African-American Iowans wasn't enough for her taste? This ain't Chicago, sweetheart, and you know that.
 
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