Bill Parcells Out Tony Dungy In.

[Boom_70]

With Tuna departure maybe the era of the malcontent NFL head coach is over. Classy Tony Dungy seems like the polar opposite of Parcels.

Look at the difference in their protege's as well. Lovey Smith , Herman Edwards - nice men - Charley Weis , Bill Belichick - pricks. Jury still out on Mangini.

 

[Twoback]

Seems a good time to offer up this: Bill Parcells was a very good football coach. But if he'd begun his career in Kansas City and won himself two Super Bowls there, no way he'd be passed off as the genius that he is pitched as today.

 

[wickedwritah]

He also wouldn't have been Jesus-like had Scott Norwood made that kick and he merely won one ring.

 

[Columbo]

He also wouldn't have been Jesus-like had Jim Kelly completed one more 6-yard out, with PLENTY of time on the clock Scott Norwood made that kick and he merely won one ring.

 

[wickedwritah]

That, too.

 

[bigpern23]

New York Giants B.P. (Before Parcells): One playoff appearance in 10 years.
New York Giants U.P. (Under Parcells): 3-12-1 his first year, back-to-back playoff appearances in years 2 and 3, Super Bowl Trophy in year four and one more to follow.

New England Patriots B.P.: 2-14 in 1992, under .500 for four straight years including a 1-15 campaign in 1990 (when he was going to the Super Bowl with the Giants).
New England Patriots U.P.: 5-11 in his first year, 10-6 and in playoffs in second. Super Bowl appearance in 1996.

New York Jets B.P.: Four wins in two years, including 1-15 in 1996 (when he was going to the SB with the Pats).
New York Jets U.P.: 9-7 in first year, 12-4 in second season with appearance in AFC Championship.

Dallas Cowboys B.P.: Three consecutive 5-11 seasons.
Dallas Cowboys U.P.: 10-6 in first year with a playoff appearance, consecutive 9-7 seasons in 2005 and 2006 with one playoff appearance (no playoff wins). He had three seasons above .500 with Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo at quarterback.

Sorry, but the man is one helluva coach. He took every franchise he ever coached from total **** to the playoffs in two years or less.

 

[wickedwritah]

If he had only one ring, though, and lost his last two Super Bowl matchups, people would say '86 was a fluke.

 

[heyabbott]

If he had only one ring, though, and lost his last two Super Bowl matchups, people would say '86 was a fluke.

People would be ****ing wrong about '86.

 

[Boom_70]

New York Giants B.P. (Before Parcells): One playoff appearance in 10 years.
New York Giants U.P. (Under Parcells): 3-12-1 his first year, back-to-back playoff appearances in years 2 and 3, Super Bowl Trophy in year four and one more to follow.

New England Patriots B.P.: 2-14 in 1992, under .500 for four straight years including a 1-15 campaign in 1990 (when he was going to the Super Bowl with the Giants).
New England Patriots U.P.: 5-11 in his first year, 10-6 and in playoffs in second. Super Bowl appearance in 1996.

New York Jets B.P.: Four wins in two years, including 1-15 in 1996 (when he was going to the SB with the Pats).
New York Jets U.P.: 9-7 in first year, 12-4 in second season with appearance in AFC Championship.

Dallas Cowboys B.P.: Three consecutive 5-11 seasons.
Dallas Cowboys U.P.: 10-6 in first year with a playoff appearance, consecutive 9-7 seasons in 2005 and 2006 with one playoff appearance (no playoff wins). He had three seasons above .500 with Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo at quarterback.

Sorry, but the man is one helluva coach. He took every franchise he ever coached from total **** to the playoffs in two years or less.

You are what you are.

 

[hondo]

With Tuna departure maybe the era of the malcontent NFL head coach is over. Classy Tony Dungy seems like the polar opposite of Parcels.

Look at the difference in their protege's as well. Lovey Smith , Herman Edwards - nice men - Charley Weis , Bill Belichick - pricks. Jury still out on Mangini.

Excellent point. Add Parcells disciple Tom Coughlin to that list.

 

[Boom_70]

With Tuna departure maybe the era of the malcontent NFL head coach is over. Classy Tony Dungy seems like the polar opposite of Parcels.

Look at the difference in their protege's as well. Lovey Smith , Herman Edwards - nice men - Charley Weis , Bill Belichick - pricks. Jury still out on Mangini.

Excellent point. Add Parcells disciple Tom Coughlin to that list.

good addition Hondo. Not a coach but the list would not be complete without including Francesa -- although he is not a coach - he is a class "a" a-hole like rest of group.

 

[Oz]

With Tuna departure maybe the era of the malcontent NFL head coach is over. Classy Tony Dungy seems like the polar opposite of Parcels.

Look at the difference in their protege's as well. Lovey Smith , Herman Edwards - nice men - Charley Weis , Bill Belichick - pricks. Jury still out on Mangini.

Of course, when talking about Parcells proteges you failed to include Sean Payton, who only won COY honors in his first year with the Saints, taking them within one game of the Super Bowl.

 

[BYH]

Uh huh. I think this new era of nice men coaching in the Super Bowl will last about as long as Men Without Hats.

No denying that Dungy is a rare breed. But the vast majority of coaches are antisocial nitwits. And Lovie Smith employs, among others, a guy who beats up people in Denny's while hollering racial slurs and a gun-wielding felon who should be locked up in a max security prison. So let's not get carried away with the hosannas.

The jerks will be playing for the big prize next year. Almost guaranteed.

 

[wickedwritah]

Of course, when talking about Parcells proteges you failed to include Sean Payton, who only won COY honors in his first year with the Saints, taking them within one game of the Super Bowl.

I wouldn't think of Payton as a true Parcells protege along the lines of Weis and Belichick, both of whom worked under the Tuna for three different teams. Payton's more of a (shudder) Jim Fassel protege, and one that Fassel whacked a few years ago (we see how well that turned out).

 

[Boom_70]

Uh huh. I think this new era of nice men coaching in the Super Bowl will last about as long as Men Without Hats.

No denying that Dungy is a rare breed. But the vast majority of coaches are antisocial nitwits. And Lovie Smith employs, among others, a guy who beats up people in Denny's while hollering racial slurs and a gun-wielding felon who should be locked up in a max security prison. So let's not get carried away with the hosannas.

The jerks will be playing for the big prize next year. Almost guaranteed.

Huh? Who are you talking about on the Bears? From what I have read they all seem to be a great group of character guys. Some may have had some minor problems in college that could be chalked up to their youth.

 

[Boom_70]

With Tuna departure maybe the era of the malcontent NFL head coach is over. Classy Tony Dungy seems like the polar opposite of Parcels.

Look at the difference in their protege's as well. Lovey Smith , Herman Edwards - nice men - Charley Weis , Bill Belichick - pricks. Jury still out on Mangini.

Of course, when talking about Parcells proteges you failed to include Sean Payton, who only won COY honors in his first year with the Saints, taking them within one game of the Super Bowl.

Just the same then you also have to include Nick Saban who trained under Belechick in Cleveland.

 

[bigpern23]

Uh huh. I think this new era of nice men coaching in the Super Bowl will last about as long as Men Without Hats.

No denying that Dungy is a rare breed. But the vast majority of coaches are antisocial nitwits. And Lovie Smith employs, among others, a guy who beats up people in Denny's while hollering racial slurs and a gun-wielding felon who should be locked up in a max security prison. So let's not get carried away with the hosannas.

The jerks will be playing for the big prize next year. Almost guaranteed.

Huh? Who are you talking about on the Bears? From what I have read they all seem to be a great group of character guys. Some may have had some minor problems in college that could be chalked up to their youth.

Never heard of Tank Johnson, Boom?

 

[Boom_70]

Uh huh. I think this new era of nice men coaching in the Super Bowl will last about as long as Men Without Hats.

No denying that Dungy is a rare breed. But the vast majority of coaches are antisocial nitwits. And Lovie Smith employs, among others, a guy who beats up people in Denny's while hollering racial slurs and a gun-wielding felon who should be locked up in a max security prison. So let's not get carried away with the hosannas.

The jerks will be playing for the big prize next year. Almost guaranteed.

Huh? Who are you talking about on the Bears? From what I have read they all seem to be a great group of character guys. Some may have had some minor problems in college that could be chalked up to their youth.

Never heard of Tank Johnson, Boom?

Yes - but what is wrong with Tank? The NYT had a nice story on him last week. He seems like a good guy. His teamates like him and he still goes back to his HS to speak to the students about staying out of trouble.

 

[doubledown68]

Seems a good time to offer up this: Bill Parcells was a very good football coach. But if he'd begun his career in Kansas City and won himself two Super Bowls there, no way he'd be passed off as the genius that he is pitched as today.

I'd sure as hell call him a genius. But I'm a KC fanboy. I take your point though.

 

[bigpern23]

Uh huh. I think this new era of nice men coaching in the Super Bowl will last about as long as Men Without Hats.

No denying that Dungy is a rare breed. But the vast majority of coaches are antisocial nitwits. And Lovie Smith employs, among others, a guy who beats up people in Denny's while hollering racial slurs and a gun-wielding felon who should be locked up in a max security prison. So let's not get carried away with the hosannas.

The jerks will be playing for the big prize next year. Almost guaranteed.

Huh? Who are you talking about on the Bears? From what I have read they all seem to be a great group of character guys. Some may have had some minor problems in college that could be chalked up to their youth.

Never heard of Tank Johnson, Boom?

Yes - but what is wrong with Tank? The NYT had a nice story on him last week. He seems like a good guy. His teamates like him and he still goes back to his HS to speak to the students about staying out of trouble.

You forgot the blue sarcasm font. :)