Beyonce lip-synched the anthem

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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/americas/article3664997.ece

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/01/22/beyonce-lip-synced-national-anthem-social-media-does-not-approve-see-the-performance-and-reaction-here/

That's now arguably the two greatest anthem performances of our lifetime, both faked.

They better not tell me Ray Charles' "America The Beautiful" was pre-recorded too.
 
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LongTimeListener said:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/americas/article3664997.ece

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/01/22/beyonce-lip-synced-national-anthem-social-media-does-not-approve-see-the-performance-and-reaction-here/

That's now arguably the two greatest anthem performances of our lifetime, both faked.

They better not tell me Ray Charles' "America The Beautiful" was pre-recorded too.

The only thing I remember from covering that Super Bowl. This may sound stupid, but I would be devastated if I found out that was pre-recorded.
 
And, yet, it was still the most genuine part of the whole day.
 
old_tony said:
And, yet, it was still the most genuine part of the whole day.

Well, that, and Paul Ryan jogging from Baltimore to the inauguration in 10 minutes flat.
 
**** Whitman said:
old_tony said:
And, yet, it was still the most genuine part of the whole day.

Well, that, and Paul Ryan jogging from Baltimore to the inauguration in 10 minutes flat.
So nice of Mitt Romney to miss the inauguration to spend the day with his wives
 
Still her voice, still her singing the song (unlike Milli Vanilli). Not sure why this feels like a letdown or betrayal to people.
 
Azrael said:
Still her voice, still her singing the song (unlike Milli Vanilli). Not sure why this feels like a letdown or betrayal to people.
This.
 
Lip-synching makes the performance not seem so real, not in the moment, more of a studio-manufactured moment a singer is pantomiming to. Put it this way, Az: what did you enjoy more? Bandstand with its lip-synching or Midnight Special with its live performances?
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Lip-synching makes the performance not seem so real, not in the moment, more of a studio-manufactured moment a singer is pantomiming to. Put it this way, Az: what did you enjoy more? Bandstand with its lip-synching or Midnight Special with its live performances?


I'd much prefer a live performance. Especially in rock. Or from great icons like Ray Charles or Ella Fitzgerald.

But I also wouldn't ask either of them to shout down the mid-morning January wind trying to sing the anthem live at a presidential inaugural.

And pop performers like Beyonce or Katy Perry or Britney now routinely pre-record chunks of their arena/stadium shows to cover the long dance sequences required of them.

I don't think it feels like a cheat to them.
 
Azrael said:
Still her voice, still her singing the song (unlike Milli Vanilli). Not sure why this feels like a letdown or betrayal to people.
Because it's not authentic.
 
Azrael said:
dooley_womack1 said:
Lip-synching makes the performance not seem so real, not in the moment, more of a studio-manufactured moment a singer is pantomiming to. Put it this way, Az: what did you enjoy more? Bandstand with its lip-synching or Midnight Special with its live performances?


I'd much prefer a live performance. Especially in rock. Or from great icons like Ray Charles or Ella Fitzgerald.

But I also wouldn't ask either of them to shout down the mid-morning January wind trying to sing the anthem live at a presidential inaugural.

And pop performers like Beyonce or Katy Perry or Britney now routinely pre-record chunks of their arena/stadium shows to cover the long dance sequences required of them.

I don't think it feels like a cheat to them.

Was this the National Anthem Dance Remix? :D
 
Interesting ontological discussion shaping up here.

Same song, same singer. Why is Beyonce singing live more "authentic" than Beyonce singing on a recorded track? Is it because we expect her to endure the risk of failure? Or because we think the performance misses some spark of "inspiration?" Is there some element of reciprocity with the audience missing?

We've all accepted mechanical reproduction as a means for storing and playing music since the late 19th century.
 
Azrael said:
We've all accepted mechanical reproduction as a means for storing and playing music since the late 19th century.

But she was asked to perform music, which is something different.

Physical production > mechanical reproduction, when it comes to performances.
 
Someone once compared it to playing a round of golf using a cart and playing while walking the entire course. I'm not sure if that's a great comparison, but ...

The question is not whether she actually sang it. She did. But people tend to compare live performances against other live performances, and when you don't think you're hearing a recorded (lip-synched) rendition, you're expecting "live." And when it blows you away, there's a sort of built-in feeling that you just witnessed something rare -- since other live performances just don't compre. By now, of course, we should all feel silly if for big events we still expect anything truly live.

But here's the thing: Live, you are dealing with echoes in the venue, perhaps a bad sound monitor, getting the timing right with the band or accompaniment, nerves, adrenaline, other environmental factors -- all of which are non-factors in the studio.
 
If it doesn't matter, then throw on an ipod of her digitally remastered best, along with a CGI of her singing on a screen somewhere.

She could be at home having hot chocolate instead of out in the January cold.
 
Azrael said:
Still her voice, still her singing the song (unlike Milli Vanilli).

Then just play the damn recording and give her credit for it. I don't need to see someone fake singing while being dishonestly led to believe it's real singing.
 

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