best Web treatment of high school sports

[bigblueman]

I am helping to redesign our newspaper's Web site and prep sports will play a major part in the redesign. So I'm throwing out the question to all those involved with high school sports coverage, Which newspaper has the best high school sports Web site? Our newspaper is a 24,000 circulation a.m.

Here's three sites to get the party started. I like www.dallasnews.com and http://blogs.scripps.com/trn/1standtrn/ at the Wichita Falls (Texas) Times Record News. Also, www.mchenrycountysports.com from Crystal Lake, Ill. is one of my favorites.

My objective is to try and put together the best Web site possible, but not make it as labor intensive as some Web sites can be. We've got a great sports staff, and I'm trying to keep their extra work to a minimum. It's like everything else in this business, give me more of everything — except qualified people.


Thanks in advance for your help with my research.

 

[Ace]

I'd worry less about how it is designed and try to make it as interactive as possible so the high school kids will post on it and parents will put in photos and videos and such.

 

[wickedwritah]

I turn to www.boston.com/sports/schools a bunch.

 

[Notepad]

The Post-Gazette in Pittsburgh is one of the best in the country

 

[pressboxramblings07]

Places like the Dallas Morning News and the San Antonio Express-News are using www.hsgametime.com. It's fantastic. I'm trying to get my shop to buy into it, because our "new" high school section on our Web site is Grade A crap.

 

[John]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/highschool/

 

[Dangerous_K]

I'd worry less about how it is designed and try to make it as interactive as possible so the high school kids will post on it and parents will put in photos and videos and such.

Agreed that interactivity is a key here, but on that note going this route means HEAVY moderation. My experiences, at least.

 

[pressmurphy]

Middletown, N.Y., paper created a separate brand for its H.S. coverage: Varsity 845

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=SPORTS31

Pretty nicely done considering they're not a huge paper.

 

[BillyT]

The Albany Times-Union does a tremendous job, and Syracuse does an excellent job, including good message boards.

Wicked, I will say the Globe's site has improved from before. I thought the Herald was actually better for a while.

 

[deskslave]

I'll tell you one I don't particularly care for: The Orlando Sentinel's. They have a ton of crap, but it takes the Web site 4,000 years to load, even with high-speed. Be careful with things like video, photos, audio, etc. The Sentinel's site throws all the media players, etc., up front, and it really bogs things down.

 

[buckweaver]

Had a whole seminar on this at a recent SoCal APSE meeting. My top 2 submissions:

http://www.ocvarsity.com (OC Register)
http://www.tribpreps.com (SLC Trib)

The old Riverside P-E site was better than the current one, but they still do a lot of good things: http://www.hsgametime.com/inlandsoutherncalifornia/

 

[pressmurphy]

The Albany Times-Union does a tremendous job, and Syracuse does an excellent job, including good message boards.

Syracuse is horrible. The site cannot be navigated. Blog entries are blended in with more traditional content on index pages in such a way that you cannot easily tell what was written two days ago as opposed to two hours ago. Blogs on the same topic (i.e., a running account of a game in progress) are given unique entries rather than assembled as part of a single entry. If you held a copy of the print edition in your hands and were then asked to locate the day's three H.S. articles on the web site, you could not do it in less than 15 minutes.

In addition, they tried converting to a database-driven results and stats area of the site. It was a nice idea, but it only works when you actually have results to post in a timely fashion. Too many blank stats pages and lists of "results" that don't actually have results.

As for the forums area, it's a cesspool of hate because there is no moderator. You can submit a form to report objectionable material, and a script will automatically delete the entire thread 10 minutes later without any human intervention. Unfortunately, childish types on the losing end of a fair and interesting debate will use the submission form to get the thread deleted and hide the fact that they didn't know what they were talking about in the first place.

Did I mention that they have RSS feeds for every topic under the sun except H.S. sports?

On top of everything else, the P-S is forced to use most of the same cookie-cutter software that its sister papers in Advance-Newhouse also use. None of them, including Staten Island and New Orleans, looks very good or navigates smoothly. In total, Syracuse might be the worst of New York's high school sites. That's quite an accomplishment in any state in which Gannett still has six newspapers.

If not for the blogging of Phil Blackwell, who isn't even a P-S employee, the site would be a complete waste.

If I want H.S. news from Central N.Y., I go to the Utica Observer-Dispatch, which did a nice redesign after getting un-Gannetted this fall.

 

[WildBillyCrazyCat]

Is anyone from Newhouse using the new Advance Internet web-based agate system for high school sports?

 

[bigblueman]

Agate is another good point. I used to work for a Gannett paper, and while PrepsFactory had its faults, I liked being able to reverse publish the agate in the paper. It was smooth and something you could do real close to deadline.

Anybody out there work with a good reverse publishing system?

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

St. Louis P-D is very good:

http://prepsports.stltoday.com/

 

[times38]

the Clarion-Ledger in Jackson, Miss., has an unbelievable database, plus some decent blogs and, I think, video. I haven't looked at it in a while.

clarionledger.com

 

[Cansportschick]

I am helping to redesign our newspaper's Web site and prep sports will play a major part in the redesign. So I'm throwing out the question to all those involved with high school sports coverage, Which newspaper has the best high school sports Web site? Our newspaper is a 24,000 circulation a.m.

Here's three sites to get the party started. I like www.dallasnews.com and http://blogs.scripps.com/trn/1standtrn/ at the Wichita Falls (Texas) Times Record News. Also, www.mchenrycountysports.com from Crystal Lake, Ill. is one of my favorites.

My objective is to try and put together the best Web site possible, but not make it as labor intensive as some Web sites can be. We've got a great sports staff, and I'm trying to keep their extra work to a minimum. It's like everything else in this business, give me more of everything — except qualified people.


Thanks in advance for your help with my research.

bigblueman, the publication that I work for in Canada has just restarted the website but will be undergoing changes during the holiday season. If you are interested in having a look, PM me and I will send you the link and/or if you want to ask what we are looking to do with ours.

 

[tapintoamerica]

I recommend the Star-News in Wilmington, N.C. www.starnewsonline.com

 

[EStreetJoe]

Is anyone from Newhouse using the new Advance Internet web-based agate system for high school sports?

Not here, as Newhouse/Advance likes to group all of their papers from a particular/state region together under one Web site and not give the smaller papers autonomy over their portion of the site.

 

[BillyT]

Press: I will take a look at Utica. I didn't know they, too, were out from under the Gannett yoke.

I guess I just had a good experience with Syracuse during the championship football run.

I will say I had a good experience on the Chicago Tribune site the other day. Excellent basketball coverage.