Aaaaand Duke Settles...

[westcoastvol]

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/topstories_story_169152217.html

I hope they had to melt down Doris Duke's casket in order to raise money to settle this.

I wonder if the Duke 88 are covered in this, as well.

In the on-deck circle: Nifong. Lube up, *****!

 

[Pastor]

Wait, why was the university sued?

 

[Football_Bat]

Wait, why was the university sued?

Maybe it had to with the 88 professors and instructors who signed the libelous petition.

 

[Bob Slydell]

"it is in the best interests of the Duke community to eliminate the possiblity of future litigation and move forward."

Code for we really don't want to look like a bunch of reactionary F-tards any longer, so we'll buy our way out fo trouble.

I would have taken the money too if it was enough to be done with it. But these kids' families are probably rich enough they didn't need it. They should have exposed Duke for the louses they are and drug them through the mud.



THEN get a lot of money out of them

 

[ondeadline]

Because the school didn't back players who hadn't been convicted of anything.

 

[Pastor]

Wait, why was the university sued?

Maybe it had to with the 88 professors and instructors who signed the libelous petition.

Then why sue a university and not those particular professors?

 

[Johnny Dangerously]

Maybe because the university, and not the professors:

-- Suspended the players.
-- Presumed their guilt, or
-- At best, distanced itself from them.
-- Canceled the season.
-- Fired the coach.
-- Has a lot of money.

 

[slappy4428]

Maybe because the university, and not the professors:

-- Suspended the players.
-- Presumed their guilt, or
-- At best, distanced itself from them.
-- Canceled the season.
-- Fired the coach.
-- Has a lot of money.

Oh sure.. .bring facts into THIS story...

 

[Webster]

Not quite sure what the school did wrong with respect to these three players. If I had to guess, they probably paid no more than five figures each.

 

[slappy4428]

Not quite sure what the school did wrong with respect to these three players. If I had to guess, they probably paid no more than five figures each.

Oh... I'd guess it's considerably more than that, what with the petition, the ruining of lives and reputation, hanging them out to dry, forgetting innocent till proven guilty and all...
Mid-six figures that will all go to legal bills

 

[Pastor]

Maybe because the university, and not the professors:

-- Suspended the players.
-- Presumed their guilt, or
-- At best, distanced itself from them.
-- Canceled the season.
-- Fired the coach.
-- Has a lot of money.

I am far from a fan of Duke as any, but I would assume...
-- The school can suspend students for hiring strippers and general misconduct.
-- The school can't be sued for presuming any guilt.
-- The school can't be sued for distancing itself from students that choose to hire strippers.
-- The school can cancel a sport or season if it wants (it happens with other sports all the time).
-- A player can't sue because the school fired the coach.
-- I guess that is probably the only reason.

Not quite sure what the school did wrong with respect to these three players. If I had to guess, they probably paid no more than five figures each.

Oh... I'd guess it's considerably more than that, what with the petition, the ruining of lives and reputation, hanging them out to dry, forgetting innocent till proven guilty and all...
Mid-six figures that will all go to legal bills

I'm not sure if you are allowed to sue for legal bills or not. Also, it wasn't the school that put them on trial, it was Nifong. The school didn't ruin the kids' reputation either. Again, that was Nifong.

 

[westcoastvol]

Let's see...lack of institutional control, creating an atmosphere of slander, libel, defamation of character...when Nifong decided to throw these kids under the bus, Duke asked "How many busses do you need?"

 

[outofplace]

Maybe because the university, and not the professors:

-- Suspended the players.
-- Presumed their guilt, or
-- At best, distanced itself from them.
-- Canceled the season.
-- Fired the coach.
-- Has a lot of money.

I am far from a fan of Duke as any, but I would assume...
-- The school can suspend students for hiring strippers and general misconduct.
-- The school can't be sued for presuming any guilt.
-- The school can't be sued for distancing itself from students that choose to hire strippers.
-- The school can cancel a sport or season if it wants (it happens with other sports all the time).
-- A player can't sue because the school fired the coach.
-- I guess that is probably the only reason.

Not quite sure what the school did wrong with respect to these three players. If I had to guess, they probably paid no more than five figures each.

Oh... I'd guess it's considerably more than that, what with the petition, the ruining of lives and reputation, hanging them out to dry, forgetting innocent till proven guilty and all...
Mid-six figures that will all go to legal bills

I'm not sure if you are allowed to sue for legal bills or not. Also, it wasn't the school that put them on trial, it was Nifong. The school didn't ruin the kids' reputation either. Again, that was Nifong.

Which is all why the families settled rather than go to court, but the school was wrong, too and this is about as much of an admission as they are going to give on this.

 

[Pastor]

Let's see...lack of institutional control, creating an atmosphere of slander, libel, defamation of character...when Nifong decided to throw these kids under the bus, Duke asked "How many busses do you need?"

Creating an atmosphere of slander? When did Duke come out with the statement that these students did it? Yeah, they were thrown out of school, but when you are a student and decide to spend your time and money hiring strippers and then hurling racial epithets at them, I am guessing the school would be able to find grounds for your dismissal.

Seems to me that the kids were just going after the school because it was a big target and had lots of money.

 

[dooley_womack1]

These "kids" chose to hire black strippers, and hurl racial epithats at them while pawing them. These "kids," not the school, brought this upon themselves, and aren't some sweet, innocent cherubs.

I suspect the school saw it as the soundest thing to do politically, to make nice with rich people, to not discourage them from sending their kids there.

 

[Webster]

Let's see...lack of institutional control, creating an atmosphere of slander, libel, defamation of character...when Nifong decided to throw these kids under the bus, Duke asked "How many busses do you need?"

Still haven't seen a cause of action there.

Not quite sure what the school did wrong with respect to these three players. If I had to guess, they probably paid no more than five figures each.

Oh... I'd guess it's considerably more than that, what with the petition, the ruining of lives and reputation, hanging them out to dry, forgetting innocent till proven guilty and all...
Mid-six figures that will all go to legal bills

The fact that a prosecutor pursued an improper indictment does not mean that the school should be civilly liable. Basically, Pastor nailed it on the head.

 

[westcoastvol]

They were kicked off campus.

They were vilified in the campus newspaper.

They exercised no control over the Duke88.

 

[Pastor]

They were kicked off campus.

They were vilified in the campus newspaper.

They exercised no control over the Duke88.

The school has a right to kick students off of its campus.

Newspapers around the country vilified the lax players.

They don't have to exercise "control" over a group that wants to do something separate.

None of what you listed is grounds for a lawsuit.

 

[slappy4428]

I'm not sure if you are allowed to sue for legal bills or not. Also, it wasn't the school that put them on trial, it was Nifong. The school didn't ruin the kids' reputation either. Again, that was Nifong.

Sorry, I didnt mean to infer that Duke would pay the legal bills. Rather, the money they would get would be used to pay the hefty legal bills.

 

[Johnny Dangerously]

My post pointed out why the school, and not any professors (as someone asked), was sued. The most significant of the reasons was the last (you sue someone who has money, not someone who doesn't), but you don't get that far without jangling your spurs about the other reasons. Duke settled mostly for political reasons, sure, but months ago it acted in another manner altogether for political reasons, and the settlement acknowledges in some way it wasn't without fault.