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Michael Jordan, David Robinson, Jerry Sloan, John Stockton, and C. Vivian Stringer all being inducted on Friday.

ESPN put together a really cool video package of Michael Jordan's career this morning on SportsCenter. I figuerd I'd post a thread to see what memories you all have of the five whom are being inducted.
 
Jordan — Too many memories to mention
Robinson — His playing days at Navy and seeing him in uniform
Sloan — None
Stockton — Short shorts
Stringer — The Imus debacle
 
Jordan — **** him. Most talented player in the game, but got more breaks than Tebow.
Robinson — Great talent; a one-man band in college
Sloan — None
Stockton — Short shorts
Stringer — Don't care
 
Jordan — Greatest ever in the game. Kobe Bryant is great, but he's not Michael Jordan great.
Robinson — Remember when Olajuwon shredded him in the '95 playoffs after D-Rob was named MVP. As a Rockets fan, greatest performance that I've seen.
Sloan — Consistent winner; great organization; extremely underrated head coach.
Stockton — Behind Magic, the second best PG of all-time. His shooting numbers were extraordinary. My most fond memory of Stockton: In Game 5 of the Western Conference 1st round against the Rockets in '98 (Drexler's last game), he passes to Greg Foster on a fast break, Foster bumbles the pass and turns it over. Rockets miss, and it's another fast break and Stockton finds Foster again, who AGAIN bumbles the pass and turns it over. Rockets miss or turn it over, and Stockton goes on a controlled fast break again, stops FT line extended, waves the first forward running the right lane through as Foster comes in, passes to Foster, who then slams it in emphatically. Back down the court, Stockton was cheering him on, and the crowd goes nuts, realizing Stockton never lost faith in Foster and kept going to him as to not let his confidence slide.
Stringer — Don't care
 
Jordan has asked David Thompson to be his presenter.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-thompsonjordan090709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
 
i know the peter vecsey speech was/is being talked about on the journalism topics board, but who saw jordan's speech?

it had some humor, light-hearted moments and some emotion from jordan at the beginning, but adrian wojnarowski nailed jordan for the pettiness of the speech.

here's the column:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jordanhall091209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

and a sentence from the columm:
Whatever, Michael. Everyone gets it. Truth be told, everyone got it years ago, but somehow he thinks this is a cleansing exercise. When basketball wanted to celebrate Jordan as the greatest player ever, wanted to honor him for changing basketball everywhere, he was petty and punitive.

you can watch jordan's speech at nba.com:
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/hall_of_fame/2009/09/11/nba_20090911_hof_jordan_speech.nba/
 
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Wojo had a great column on Jerry Krause a couple days ago:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ao3Z2SzhxCqmKuwHGQwsvxDTjdIF?slug=aw-krausejordan090909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

No doubt Jordan fans loved the speech. To me, it was arrogant beyond belief. There's no I in team, but there's an I in win...good for you, Mike. So classy.
 
Den,

Stockton the second best point guard ever?????? funny......Stockton wasn't on the same planet as isaiah thomas....not. on. the. same. planet
 
floridanewbie31 said:
Den,

Stockton the second best point guard ever?????? funny......Stockton wasn't on the same planet as isaiah thomas....not. on. the. same. planet

Many of us are thankful to be in the same position.

But seriously, there are many arguments to be made as to who's better between the two. To say Stockton isn't on the same planet is absurd, however.
 
your right about the same planet. it is closer than that.

But stockon was not a better player than thomas. Thomas did everything stockton did, playmaking wise, and could still hand 40 on you....there's a reason malone intentionally elbowed thomas that night...it's because he lit stock up for 44 the last time the two played.
 
I could not believe how petty Jordan came across. Agree with every word of Wojnarowski's column. That was a very clear indication of who he is at this point in his life.

My best Jordan story, however, came from covering the Raptors in 1997-98. It was the team's first game after the trade deadline. They'd just dealt Damon Stoudamire and had only 8 players available to face the Bulls, en route to their sixth title. (The Raptors would win 16 games that year.)

Predictably, the Bulls were killing them as the first-half ended, despite Jordan having just three points. My media row seat was by the Bulls bench, and as they warmed up for the start of the second half, Phil Jackson walked over to him and said, "Why don't you take the rest of the night off?"

I'll never forget Jordan's response. He said, "I haven't given these fans their show yet." At the time, the Raptors played in SkyDome, and there were about 35,000 fans. He scored 19 points in the third, many spectacularly, and when the buzzer sounded, walked by Jackson and said, "Now you can take me out."

I really respected that about him.

My Stockton story came from Stoudamire, during his Rookie-of-the-Year season (1995-96). The Raptors actually played the Jazz close at home early in November, but Stoudamire was despondent afterwards. It was the most down he'd be after any game that season. He said that no one took him to the cleaners worse than Stockton. He was crushed. I also remember Willie Anderson walking over to him and explaining how that happens during your first year.

Robinson: I always felt he was never as good as he should have been.

Sloan: Love his honesty. And, despite his crustiness, he certainly feels he should treat people with respect.

Stringer: Don't know her. But, can see she's a very strong person for overcoming her husband's death and daughter's illness.
 
Jordan's speech is fun to watch. Makes for a great drinking game.

Every time he says "competitive" or "competitor," take a drink. When he sneers at someone who slighted him, take a drink.

He is so sainted by so many, it's interesting to see him ramble like he did. And without David Falk coaching him these days, his delivery of mean-spirited jokes leaves something to be desired.
 
I haven't listened to the whole thing yet - I turned it on last night to see him ripping Krause. Really Michael? Still?

So who didn't he take shots at? Was there a swipe at LaBradford Smith? Did he mock Sports Illustrated and remind them that he will still refuse to talk to them, 15 years after their baseball cover? Did he yell at Dan Dakich? "Yeah, Dan, you held me down in the 1984 tournament. But how did our lives go from that point? Scoreboard!"

Did he drop his notecards and say, "Oh, sorry, I was doing my Kwame Brown impression?"

Was he drunk?
 
Piotr Rasputin said:
Jordan's speech is fun to watch. Makes for a great drinking game.

Every time he says "competitive" or "competitor," take a drink. When he sneers at someone who slighted him, take a drink.

Or when he describes his love for the "game of basketball", take a drink.

I did not like his speech, either. Extremely petty and not the right stage at all for all that. Adrian's column is on point. Jordan needs to let go ... desperately.
 
floridanewbie31 said:
Den,

Stockton the second best point guard ever?????? funny......Stockton wasn't on the same planet as isaiah thomas....not. on. the. same. planet

Just my opinion, but I believe Stockton is underrated to this very day, and I hated the guy (I'm a Rockets fan).

But if there's one person I want leading my team, aside from Magic, it's Stockton. I'll take the best shooting point guard and the one of the top three passers and thieves of his generation any day.
 
Seen this crap from Michael Jordan for years. Got tired of it. One guy in my dorm refused to speak to me after a while because he thought I was too critical of Jordan.

Wonder if that guy saw this display. Wonder why the whole world doesn't love you, Michael? You really wonder?
 
I believe that's the least gracious induction speech I've ever heard.

Seems like he only thanked people for their slights and offenses which drove him to prove them wrong or stuff it in their face, never for their efforts actually trying to help him. Hell, even with his saint figure Dean Smith, he only mentioned his reaction at Dean not choosing him as one of the four players on the pre-season SI cover his freshman year. He was still trying to compete and stick it to his opponents and doubters in his induction speech.
 
Dean Smith certainly didn't teach him to be that petty.
(Understanding that's not your point, Stoney, but just sayin' ... )
 
Sam Mills 51 said:
Seen this crap from Michael Jordan for years. Got tired of it. One guy in my dorm refused to speak to me after a while because he thought I was too critical of Jordan.

Wonder if that guy saw this display. Wonder why the whole world doesn't love you, Michael? You really wonder?

Very true. I imagine there's a lot more people in the NBA and former players who don't like him than those who do.
 
And Reilly decides to get in on the Jordan bashing:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=reilly_rick&id=4477759
 

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