Worst lede ever, right? No really, it is the worst lede ever.

Smasher_Sloan · Jan 21, 2013

Ah, the lax standards of Canadian "journalism" where an obsolete fossil like Red Fisher can rationalize his laziness in shunning locker rooms by flippantly saying nobody in there has anything interesting to say.

Par for the course in a land where people embrace Don Cherry's xenophobic blather.

Gonna Buy me a Dog · Jan 21, 2013

JR said:

I think that this lede was horrible but you can find almost any godawful example in a writer/artist/musicians work. That does not define them.
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How can you defend this garbage? No, you can't find something this bad in anybody's work, if that's what you're trying to say. What the hell kind of observation is that?

JR said:

no one can deny her abilities.
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I can.

KJIM · Jan 21, 2013

What if Rosie were a guy?

The lede is still the most horrific thing ever, but does the editor say something then?

I honestly can't fathom how this made it into print and how there hasn't been some outcry for the columnist's job.

jlee · Jan 21, 2013

Smasher_Sloan said:

Ah, the lax standards of Canadian "journalism" where an obsolete fossil like Red Fisher can rationalize his laziness in shunning locker rooms by flippantly saying nobody in there has anything interesting to say.

Par for the course in a land where people embrace Don Cherry's xenophobic blather.
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Yeah, I mean all Americans do is plagiarize and make up sources. Have Canadians no standards?

jr/shotglass · Jan 21, 2013

Oh, I thought the lede was just fine.

OK, not really. It was quite inappropriate.

Lugnuts · Jan 21, 2013

Wow, Canuckistani pride trumps all, eh?

There's a reason almost nobody in the U.S. has heard of this woman. Big smelly fish, small pond.

Versatile · Jan 21, 2013

Lugnuts said:

Wow, Canuckistani pride trumps all, eh?

There's a reason almost nobody in the U.S. has heard of this woman. Big smelly fish, small pond.
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#POY13

Elliotte Friedman · Jan 21, 2013

Sorry, first chance to log in today.

Maybe, as Smasher says, we're a bunch of lazy, misogynist racists. Or maybe IJAG hit it on the head. I don't know Mark Whicker, but when I read that one column, I thought, "Firing offence." But when I saw people passionately defend his entire body of work, I realized that even the best of us can make a horrible mistake.

That's what I see here. I know Rosie's entire body of work. She has written strong columns on tough subjects. Columns that would impress the people who are trashing her now. She screwed up on this one...what else can I say? And, in the internet era, she will pay dearly for it.

But she's done a lot more good than harm and she's respected. If that's unacceptable to any of you, well I'll just have to live with that.

Sorry, I can't remember who asked about her having a no-edit policy. I honestly wouldn't know the answer to that.

Lugnuts · Jan 21, 2013

That's just it, Elliotte. She'll pay dearly for it... or benefit from it?

The Toronto Star still has it up. No apologies. no acknowledgement of a mistake. They're enjoying the hits, the fuckers.

I'm sorry, Elliotte. You're a gentleman. You don't deserve to have your city insulted. This one's gotten to me for some reason.

pseudo · Jan 21, 2013

http://www.thestar.com/article/1318082

Note: The following was sent out Jan. 21 to Toronto Star readers who expressed concerns about Rosie DiManno’s Jan. 18 column about the trial of Dr. George Doodnaught, an anesthesiologist charged with sexually assaulting 20 women while they were helpless in the North York General Hospital operating theatre, and one at an outside clinic.

Thank you for expressing your view of Rosie DiManno’s Jan. 18 column.

While I understand why you find the opening sentence of the column to be insensitive and demeaning to the woman who testified, I have corresponded with DiManno and I am assured there was no intention here to demean the woman or her testimony or make light of the circumstances. Rather, after sitting through all of the sordid, ugly evidence presented in court, she deliberately sought to reflect the grotesque nature of the alleged crime.

Rosie DiManno is one of the Star’s best and most prolific writers. DiManno covers many trials with difficult graphic evidence. While I personally concur with those readers critical of this column’s opening sentence, I think DiManno’s writing overall shows sensitivity and empathy for victims of horrific crimes. As managing editor Jane Davenport told me: “She is more likely than many columnists to walk close to the line in terms of detailing the nature of the crimes, but I think walking this line — balancing their dignity against the imperative ‘not to look away’ — is something she most often does with skill and care.”

The Star’s policy and journalistic standards manual states that “Columnists and Op-Ed writers have wide latitude to express their own views in the Star, including views directly contrary to the Star’s editorial views, as long as they fall within the boundaries of good taste and the laws of libel.”

“Taste” is always a subjective matter and questions of taste in columns and other content are often flagged to the managing editor by columnists themselves or other editors. That did not happen in this case. Had that occurred, I expect the managing editor would have urged DiManno to revise the opening to the column, which otherwise accurately reflects the direct testimony of the victim.

Kathy English

Public Editor

Toronto Star
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Uncle.Ruckus · Jan 21, 2013

What a crock of shit.

21 · Jan 21, 2013

Note: The following was sent out Jan. 21 to Toronto Star readers who expressed concerns about Rosie DiManno’s Jan. 18 column about the trial of Dr. George Doodnaught, an anesthesiologist charged with sexually assaulting 20 women while they were helpless in the North York General Hospital operating theatre, and one at an outside clinic.

Thank you for expressing your view of Rosie DiManno’s Jan. 18 column.

While I understand why you find the opening sentence of the column to be insensitive and demeaning to the woman who testified, I have corresponded with DiManno and I am assured there was no intention here to demean the woman or her testimony or make light of the circumstances. Rather, after sitting through all of the sordid, ugly evidence presented in court, she deliberately sought to reflect the grotesque nature of the alleged crime.

Rosie DiManno is one of the Star’s best and most prolific writers. DiManno covers many trials with difficult graphic evidence. While I personally concur with those readers critical of this column’s opening sentence, I think DiManno’s writing overall shows sensitivity and empathy for victims of horrific crimes. As managing editor Jane Davenport told me: “She is more likely than many columnists to walk close to the line in terms of detailing the nature of the crimes, but I think walking this line — balancing their dignity against the imperative ‘not to look away’ — is something she most often does with skill and care.”

The Star’s policy and journalistic standards manual states that “Columnists and Op-Ed writers have wide latitude to express their own views in the Star, including views directly contrary to the Star’s editorial views, as long as they fall within the boundaries of good taste and the laws of libel.”

“Taste” is always a subjective matter and questions of taste in columns and other content are often flagged to the managing editor by columnists themselves or other editors. That did not happen in this case. Had that occurred, I expect the managing editor would have urged DiManno to revise the opening to the column, which otherwise accurately reflects the direct testimony of the victim.

Kathy English

Public Editor

Toronto Star
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Tone deaf.

'Grotesque' would have worked. Inane and goofy does not.

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