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Who has the best college football program?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Marvin, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. Almost_Famous

    Almost_Famous Active Member

    why would you say that ???
  2. Marvin

    Marvin Member

    Marvin pulls out the book again and mumbles some more in martian ...

    Miami post-1980 (26 years): five national champions, 22 bowl games, two Heisman winners, two Outland Trophies, a boat-load of future NFL players, etc. ... .

    Miami pre-1980 (53 years): 1935 Orange Bowl; 1946 Orange Bowl; 1952 Gator Bowl; 1961 Liberty Bowl; 1962 Gotham Bowl; 1966 Liberty Bowl; 1967 Bluebonnet Bowl. No championships and no major awards. From 1968 to 1977, the Hurricanes had more head coaches, six, than winning seasons, one.

    Before 1980 the Hurricanes could have been called the sprinkles.
  3. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    But, this is an all-time list. I'm as big a UM fan, and there's no way they should be in the Top Five. If they're lucky, they'll just sneak into the Top Ten.

    One man's list, take it for what it is worth:
    1) Notre Dame
    2) Bama
    3) USC
    4) Oklahoma
    5) Nebraska
    6) Michigan
    7) Ohio State
    8] Georgia
    9) Texas
    10) U of Miami
  4. KP

    KP Active Member

    I would imagine they are called jimmies in Bristol.

    EDIT - Ohio Bobcats, take pride in knowing we've never had a major infraction, unlike the Foreskins/RedShits.
  5. Almost_Famous

    Almost_Famous Active Member

    so basically, the criteria is national titles, right?

    and i would guess bowl games, and Heisman winners ...

    marvin, can you whip the book out again and tell us which teams have won the most national titles?

    i mean shit, alabama has a storied history, but from 1980 to now how many titles? 2?
    Georgie has what, one?

    this is off the cuff hoops, so feel free to jump in with snide remarks
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    For all the smooching Notre Dame always gets in these rankings, they have really had an amazing number of really extended periods when they were completely off the national map -- and not really all that many seasons when they were truly a top national contender.

    1. Pre-Rockne: the huge upset of Army in 1913 notwithstanding, they didn't get really good until Rockne got his machine going in the 1920s.

    2. After Rockne: It took them about 15 years after Rockne's death to really become dominant again, after WWII.

    3. After Leahy: After Leahy retired, they were pretty much off the map for about 10 years, until Ara arrived.

    4. Faust. Half a decade off the radar screen, and then it took Holtz 3-4 years to really get it going.

    5. Holtz' decline, and then the reign of mediocrity of Davie and Willingham. Now Weis has arrived, and they have had one very, very borderline top-10 level season.

    Yet, a lot of people seem to think Notre Dame is an enduring, perennial powerhouse. ::) ::)
  7. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Well, gives us something to be proud of in the football department. :p
  8. part-timer

    part-timer Member

    The Buffalo Bills of D-3!  Go Profs!
  9. HoopsMcCann

    HoopsMcCann Active Member

    georgie who?

    and, a_f, trust me, i assumed it was off the cuff, nothing you ever post has ever had any research or facts associated with it
  10. HoopsMcCann

    HoopsMcCann Active Member

    and god forbid anyone click ona link and read...

    here, this is what the t-news said it used as criteria:

  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    It can't be "opinion-free," otherwise you just rank total wins, and overall winning percentage.

    -- The AP poll, of course, is based completely on opinion.

    -- Recruiting rankings are completely opinion, and also utterly irrelevant. Where your recruiting classes are ranked is meaningless -- the only thing that matters is how many games they eventually win on the field.

    -- Pro potential is utterly irrelevant. The function of college football teams is not to develop pro football players. It is to win college football games.

    -- Academics has nothing to do with college football. Nothing whatsoever. Any half-intelligent grownup knows this.

    -- Bowl appearances are also determined, in large part, on opinion (much more in the past than now, but still very much so.)

    -- AP-awarded NCs have all been based on opinion.

    -- HOF inductees are all based on opinion.

    -- "Coaching legacy" is an utterly nebulous term, needless to say, also completely based on opinion.

    So in the attempt to be as "opinion-free as possible," they came up with a whole grocery list of largely irrelevant criteria -- which are all based, almost completely, on opinion.
    ::) ::)

    Good job.
  12. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    And yet, Miami U gave the football world the cradle of coaches. Ohio U gave it Ron Blackledge...
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