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what's your stand on gay adoption?

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by EE94, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. It's The Simpsons. From one of the Halloween episodes where Kang and Kodos impersonate Clinton and Dole.
  2. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    There's pretty strong patterns out there that show where physical sexual abuse of women by dads or father figures, and also rape, pushed women toward lesbian lifestyles.
  3. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Link, please. As a rape victim, who is not sexually attracted to women, I call bullshit on this one. You wanna throw out shit like that, back it up.
  4. spup1122

    spup1122 Guest

    The only thing that's been linked by studies that I've seen (as a sociology major) is that the tendency of the sexually abused to become sexual abusers is fairly high.
  5. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    I know THREE. And they know of several, having discussed this. I don't need any fucking media polls. Just talk to neighbors and work associates. Life exists around you.

    Having said that, Chick, I didn't say EVERY RAPE VICTIM jumped to the other side.

    Are you saying that psychological conditioning CANNOT persuade sexual orientation?
  6. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Yea, I am. I think it's genetic, as does the vast majority of the scientific evidence, but again, you've never been one to allow science get in the way of your hate, have you bobbleyawn?

    And I don't know any rape victims who've changed their orientation, and I know plenty of them.
  7. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Ain't a choice?

    Older women urged to become lesbians
    [The article was originally accessible at http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,6908932,00.html but appears to have been removed.]

    By Nikki Voss and Nicole Cox

    Australia's leading relationship counselling body is urging lonely older single women to become lesbians.

    Relationships Australia spokesman Jack Carney said men's shorter life spans, and their pursuit of much younger women, meant women in their twilight years were often forced to turn to other women for love and companionship.

    Mr Carney said the government-funded support group encouraged older women to explore lesbian relationships, which were seen as more nurturing and emotionally supportive.

    Older women were even pooling their resources to buy property and making pacts to form couples if they did not find a male partner by a certain age, he said.

    "As they get over 60, opportunities to get a man diminish substantially. Men marry younger women and they die about eight years younger, so there is a real male shortage," Mr Carney said.

    "And as women get even older it gets much worse, so we ask them to entertain the idea of lesbian relationships."

    Australian Pensioner and Superannuants League secretary Yvonne Zardini said she was aware of more women moving in together in old age.

    "You notice it more where women are sharing houses, but I never ask exactly what the nature of their arrangements are, but it wouldn't surprise me (if they were in same-sex relationships). Loneliness can be a terrible thing when you are older," she said.

    Myra Flynn, from support group Older Dykes, said some older women "defaulted" to lesbian relationships because of a lack of men.

    Others had struck up relationships with men in the 1950s and 60s only because they could not be open about their sexuality, or they wanted a child.

    "It's becoming more common and I've noticed a growing trend in bisexuality," she said.

    The Matrix Guild, a Victorian support group for lesbian women aged over 40, refused to comment on the Relationships Australia advice.

    Census 2001 statistics show older members of society are adopting the divorce trend and are leaving life-long partners, some even in their 80s.

    Mr Carney said that despite the encouragement for women to "explore other options", married and miserable was still better than alone and free, unless there was abuse.

    "The best thing you can do is stay married if you want to live longer," Mr Carney said.

    "When I talk to other counsellors, they are seeing many more older people coming in, but we try to tell them to stick with it. Divorce is like amputation."

    Founded in 1948 as the Marriage Guidance Council, Relationships Australia is a non-profit counselling organisation funded by both the Federal and State Governments.

    In response to the pensioner stampede to the divorce courts, Relationships Australia has launched two courses on how to start again in relationships in old age.

    Link to original story

    © Herald Sun
  8. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    You're totally fucking ignorant then. Dress a boy in a dress for three years. See what happens. Otherwise, stick to your bias-induced polls and studies.
  9. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    I'm ignorant? Looked in the mirror lately?
  10. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Testimony from one

    SO114: What do you think is the origin of homosexuality?
    POSTED DEC. 30, 1998
    Yael B. 14, (heterosexual) <xyz_il@yahoo.com>, Beer-Seva, Israel

    It seems as though the main argument relating to homosexuality is "You are born with it" vs. "it is a choice." Anyone with any sense knows that no one would choose to be gay. I don't understand how one could be "born gay," but I cannot say it is not possible. I don't understand gay people who say "I knew I was different when I was five." No one knows anything when they are five, especially regarding their sexuality. I am a firm believer in the power of psychological conditioning, and I believe most gay people are so because of the environment they grew up in. I believe I am gay because my mother was the figure I was closest to and most dependent on as I was growing up. My father is a wonderful man, but I didn't connect with him in the typical masculine father/son way, and because of that, he has always been sort of distant. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to me that I am gay.


    Oh but wait. She didn't consult with the latest media enterprise piece that says this can't happen.

    I won't say one isn't born that way, but to say that exclusively....just plain ignorant of the power of the mind.
  11. Kritter47

    Kritter47 Member

    Actually, Yawn, there's a very interesting case study of a young boy who was not only dressed as a girl for the first 14 years of his life, but actually had his penis and testes removed following a botched attempted at circumcision. The child went by "Brenda" until age 14 when he changed his name to David and wanted to be addressed as a male. He eventually married and adopted two children with his wife.

    It's a fascination case study on the mutability of gender. I suggest you watch one of the numerous television specials or read the linked case study.

  12. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    Yawn, why don't you wear a dress for the next three years and then come back and tell us whether you are gay or not. It could be SportsJournalists.com's first case study and I think you are the perfect person to try it out.
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