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What would you do?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by rpmmutant, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. awriter

    awriter Active Member

    If the paramedics are called and she's wrapped in blankets and looking catatonic on the sideline, then no, it's not enough to just say she had an undisclosed illness. You need to describe the scene and at the very least go with the coach's no comment. But the reporter needs to talk to the sister, the parents and teammates (assuming the girl is in no shape to talk).
     
  2. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Why does the public need to know why she passed out? You wouldn't necessarily get this information from a pro football team, you don't need it from a high school coach.

    And very hard to understand why you'd try to 'protect' the girl by suggesting a lie, while simultaneously investigating what you assume to be an eating disorder, based on an overheard and unsubstantiated rumor.

    She fainted, received medical attention, and did not play. The end.
     
  3. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Disagree, awriter. There really is no need to say anything more than she had an undisclosed illness/injury.

    Especially since it seems rpm was given no concrete answer as to what was wrong.

    What if he had assumed it was one thing and it wound up being something else? Methinks him and his paper would be in hot water.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I would seriously look into doing a story on how prevalent it is for athletes (primarily girls I presume) are using athletics as a way to loose weight in a perhaps unhealthy way and what the coaches look for to discourage girls being so low on fuel that they pass out.
     
  5. Notepad

    Notepad Member

    No.
    Just wondering where exactly journalism is headed when people in the industry don't know how to handle the most basic situations.
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member


    Notepad:
    I've ripped more people for exactly that than anyone on the board.
    I think rpm actually wrote the right thing but his original post came off much differently than he intended.
    It still isn't as bad as signing on here on deadline on a Friday night to ask for football stats help.
     
  7. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    So I need some help. Is it Joe Blow had 24 carries for 34 yards, or Joe Blow was tackled for a loss on most his 24 carries and gained 34 measly yards?
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    It goes like this:

    If Joe Blow is on the home team, you say: "Joe Blow wriggled his way to a tough 34 yards on two-dozen totes against the Guanos' rugged defense.

    If Joe Blow is on the away team you say: The Podunk Plodders held All-State candidate Joe Blow in check all night, limiting him to a measly 34 yards on 24 carries.

    (Technically, everyone is an all-state candidate, so even if Mr. Blow is mediocre, it's not a lie.)
     
  9. Notepad

    Notepad Member

    The problem is very simple. Too many young writers now want to win awards, and don't have a freaking clue how to report, cultivate sources, etc.

    And just so you know, I am not old, just old-school.
    By coming on here and asking a question such as the one that was asked at the start of this thread, it is very apparent rpm doesn't know the basic foundations of journalism.

    You can all commence to ripping me if you'd like now. But the truth sometimes hurts.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Yeah, well, I'd rather have someone trying to learn than somone afraid to ask and just winging it.

    rpm:

    1. Just because you overhead something doesn't make it true. You'll be amazed at how certain and wrong people can be.

    2. Never lead a coach/source into saying something, especially something you don't believe to be true.

    3. Often it's better not to report something all at when you don't have all the facts.

    4. What you see at a game might be the seed for a bigger, better story later on and not something to deal with RIGHT THEN.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Sometimes I do not understand the need to rip people on this board. As spnited pointed out, it's not like rpm came on here asking for help as he wrote the story. He was asking for opinions after the fact. Based on what he wrote on the thread, he handled this just fine in the story. What is so wrong with him wanting to discuss it later?

    Regarding athletes endangering their healthy while trying to lose weight, I have seen stories on something called anorexia athletica, which seems to fit what has been mentioned. Former Connecticut basketball player Shea Ralph has talked quite a bit about having this problem during her playing days.

    Here are a couple of links I found on the subject.

    http://caringonline.com/eatdis/topics/athletics.htm

    http://www.eatingdisordersonline.com/explain/anorathletica.php

    Edit: Well put, Ace and buckweaver.
     
  12. Notepad

    Notepad Member

    To my point exactly.
    And it is not necessarily an indictment on rpm. I am trying to get across that his/her employer should be sure he/she knows those things before they are hired.
     
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