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Unfailed: California's budget outlook best in years...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'm sure there is a huge demand to go from Fresno to Madera. :D

    It seems like I've been hearing about high-speed rails from SF to LA and LA to Vegas since I was a teenager.
     
  2. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    Surpluses don't just generate the "let's spend the money on this project" response. They also generate the "cut taxes" response.

    From some people, they generate both responses.

    Nobody ever seems to say "pay off outstanding debts," whether it's at the federal, state or local level.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    This thread title belongs in the "World's Tallest Midget" category.
     
  4. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Until they do something about the pensions being paid out, I can't imagine California being in decent shape financially.
     
  5. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Pensions are never going to be "paid out" because they are a continuing liability and based upon whether the reserves in hand plus the anticipated future revenues cover the pension obligations; that's the whole foundation of pensions (I used to be a building trades pension fund attorney).

    The question is whether the actuaries have made a "conservative" model or "aggressive" model in what future revenues are needed. "Fully funded", which is the key issue, means whether the fund can pay out all current and future liabilities or not, based on the future revenues (new payments and returns on investments).

    A surplus is a big thing here in the Golden State, it just shows that if you are willing to pay for things (taxes), you do not have to deficit spend. As a taxpayer, I'm proud that we have taken steps to get our house in order. In our local schools, the monies are having an impact.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    YES! YES! YES!

    High-speed rail financing struck down by judge, project in jeopardy

    http://www.mercurynews.com/california-high-speed-rail/ci_24598004/high-speed-rail-financing-struck-down-by-judge
     
  7. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Yeah, because the midget in question can't stand tall enough to see the $640 Billion unfunded liabilities in the pension program. They're in great shape, alright. Just a few more "responsible tax increases" from that brave supermajority and things will be peachy keen.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Great news: Judge halts funding of the bullet train

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-judge-blocks-state-funding-bullet-train-20131125,0,725258.story#axzz2liPHjj7I
     
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Hedley Lamarr: Qualifications?
    Applicant: Rape, murder, arson, and rape.
    Hedley Lamarr: You said rape twice.
    Applicant: I like rape.
     
  10. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Still my No. 1 movie on my iPhone/iPad.
     
  11. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Its looking at a deficit of $71 billion alone from the teacher's pension.

    The second-largest public pension fund in the country, after California's primary pension system for public employees, it faces a $71-billion shortfall that worsens by $22 million every day, according to pension officials.

    That's just the teacher pension, not the big Kahuna, the firefighter/cop/pencil pusher pension.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-teacher-pensions-20140221,0,3987312.story#ixzz2u062RUpC
     
  12. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    So, you get rid of traditional pensions. You get rid of Social Security and Medicare (or severely trim them back until they're useless) because they're entitlement programs sucking this great nation dry. Does anyone believe that 401(k)s are going to pick up the slack?

    I know the nuclear option is only favored by a few. But really, how much do you cut until retirement for most people becomes like it was in the 1900s, grim and cheerless and if you were lucky, the kids let you hole up in the basement?
     
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