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UKy basketball "locks out" student paper

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Moderator1, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Just to be clear in case you weren't just agreeing with me, I was also saying that what is happening is not censorship. Re-reading my post, it almost sounds like I was saying UK's policy was overstepping its bounds and becoming censorship.
     
  2. Bob Slydell

    Bob Slydell Active Member

    No, I was agreeing with you. I don't believe it's censorship. Bad PR maybe, bitter and petty yes, but not censorship.
     
  3. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    Fuck UK and fuck their PR department and fuck all the little hoops they make you jump through and fuck the petty, personal ways they do things. Peevy or Stricklin or whoever came before him gets a bug up his ass, and suddenly a guy who Cal has been thick as thieves with can be out on the step.

    Fuck 'em all.

    I miss Brooks Downing.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Ha! I was waiting for that rant.
     
  5. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    *bows*

    I wanted to say more, but I couldn't type well from all the angry shaking.
     
  6. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    I can't believe there are people on a board for journalists who say limiting access to a public figure is a good thing.

    If the reporters bug the kids too much? Don't answer the damn phone. That's what caller ID is for.

    When schools put students' phone numbers and email addresses online, the horse is far out of the barn on the access thing.
     
  7. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    One of the many reasons I hate PR.

    Good for the Kernel using its resources other outlets don't (or may not) have to get a story. Just a shame UK reacted the way it did.

    I had SID threaten me with stripping credentials after telling the department I called a starting QBs cell phone so he'd confirm with me he plans to transfer. SID denied it when I asked, so I found my own means of getting the answer. Didn't see the problem.
     
  8. Bob Slydell

    Bob Slydell Active Member

    Unfortunately, you have to jump through their hoops. It's frustrating I know. But readers, what readers there are left, just want the story, and they are not going to side with you when you don't have it. But your point is well taken.

    Just wondering, is any school easy to deal with? Aside from really small college who just don't care?
     
  9. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Hell, the Kernel was locked out for a day? I was at the Indiana Daily Student in the middle of Bob Knight locking us out of practice and one-on-ones for 18 years! (We did get game credentials and were at post-game press conferences and locker room access, assuming Knight didn't send everyone home before the locker room opened, assuming he opened it at all.)

    Being locked out does have its advantages. People will talk to you knowing you're not a stooge for the program. For example, that got me a long, fruitful interview with Jay Edwards' mom right after Knight pulled Edwards' scholarship on the Friday evening of Fourth of July weekend.

    However, let me say Knight was a dick then, and the Kentucky people are being dicks now. What dick-ish college SIDs and athletic departments count on is that their media stooges (and by extension, the stooges' audiences) will enforce the rules for them.
     
  10. SellOut

    SellOut Member

    Speaks to bigger issue at UK and other big-time institutions: bias. UK _ and Cal in particular _ has no problem granting certain folks who "play ball" with special access and those that don't are limited or not included at all (Jerry Tipton being chief among them). They have an "us" vs. "them" attitude and will grant access according to how favorable they consider your coverage.
    UK is hardly the only school in the country with this kind of attitude, and with the rise of social media I wouldn't be surprised if Cal simply jettisons the entire SID department and controls flow of information thru his FB, Twitter and Lexy accounts and his Web site.
    Of course, even when you play ball, you only get access when it's to their advantage. When the crap hits the fan, you'll get nothing just like everybody else.
     
  11. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    UK wouldn't confirm whether these guys were on the team or not. So reporters have to assume they're not yet, which makes them fair game to be called by the student newspaper.

    You can't pretend they're not on the team yet, but still punish reporters for calling them. That's talking out both sides of your mouth.

    Anyway, kudos to the UK kids. I hope they learned a great lesson here--that they don't have to follow the rules of an overbearing athletic department if it benefits them not to. In this case, they lose an opportunity to do interviews but got a scoop out of it. I think they came out OK.

    Media is getting squeezed out little by little by these control freaks. Pick your battles wisely, but don't just lay back and take it.
     
  12. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    A lot of times when these college athletes are smothered the way most of them are now, you can really use that to your advantage when calling them on your own.

    I would always call them up to try and confirm something, then at the end of any conversation (if I'm not going to quote them) I would say "OK, let's keep this between us. I don't want you to get in trouble for talking to me."

    That puts the fear on them and makes them believe you are looking out for them. They probably won't tattle on you because they don't want to get in trouble for talking to you.

    But hell, if they do? Fuck it.
     
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