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Toledo asks Big East to vacate Syracuse's win

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dr. J, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. Dr. J

    Dr. J Member

    Didn't see this anywhere else, but Toledo is making a stink about the "extra point" that led to the Orange's win over the Rockets on Saturday.


    Even though the extra point came with two minutes to go, and Toledo still got the ball, doesn't mean that Toledo would have won the game. They kicked a fg instead of going for the win, and both teams recieved the ball in ot. I have a feeling that the the Big East is going to screw Syracuse because of their move to the ACC.
  2. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    That might've been the single most inexcusable blown call I've ever seen. For cripes sake, you've got a ref whose only job on kicks is to stand under the goal post and look up to see if the ball went through the uprights or not and, even on the extraordinarily unlikely event that it's missed the first time, the play is reviewable on instant replay. How the fuck could multiple officials view that repeatedly and none see that the ball obviously didn't go through?

    Don't believe the result will be vacated, that'd be opening too big a can of worms if we start retroactively changing game outcomes based on blown calls. But if there ever was a case where a reversal might be justified, that game was it.
  3. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    If Missouri's "fifth-down" loss to Colorado didn't get vacated, this surely won't.
  4. farmerjerome

    farmerjerome Active Member

    I'm certainly biased here, but they won't vacate it...

    But it has nothing to do with Syracuse going to the ACC. It was a big-time blown call, and in this day and age it's going to get media coverage.

    I know it's a whole other sport, but if they didn't give that kid a perfect game last season when the ref blew the call at first base, and that didn't even alter the result of the game, they're not going to start changing things now.
  5. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    You can't assume that the game would have played out in exactly the same way, so there's no way this works. You could easily make the case that Syracuse plays defense differently if they know a field goal beats them, rather than just forcing an overtime. (It would probably be much more difficult to make the case that they would have played defense any more successfully, but that's neither here nor there.
  6. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Toledo is pissed, but nothing will happen. Which is sad.
  7. SockPuppet

    SockPuppet Active Member

    Saw where the Big East's officiating coordinator said he "was confident that we will learn from this mistake."

    He should have said, "I'm confident that I'm firing a replay official and suspending some officials for the rest of this season."
  8. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    You mean, the game that happened before conferences adopted instant replay for disputed plays?
  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Not that I'm bitter or anything.
  10. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Of course, if it was DeWayne Peevy in charge, he'd ignore the on-field result, change the final score in the press guide and ignore what the NCAA rules -- just like he did with Cal's vacated wins at Memphis...
  11. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Good point though. Maybe this will get overturned....

    ...nah, it won't.
  12. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Yeah, not so much. They still were in a situation where they needed to prevent a field goal on that final possession to prevent the tie/overtime, and Cuse was still playing defense to prevent the field goal, not prevent formations guarding only agains the TD. In that situation, it is extremely unlikely that their defensive formations would've been any different at all.

    Obviously we can't know with 100% certainty, but there's absolutely enough here to justifiably say that Toledo was screwed out of a win. Their field goal on the final play of regulation won the game but for the blown call.
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