Tiki Barber -- Hall-of-Famer?

Payton didn't have a single Pro Bowl lineman blocking for him until the 1985 season.

 

I agree with the top 3, Sam. After that, there are a lot of choices to round out a Top 5.

I think Faulk deserves to be in there because he is the prototype of what the running back position has become in the 21st century. Although Payton was the first to set the bar high as a true all-purpose threat. When he retired, he not only held the rushing record, he also held the record for most receptions by a back (with legends like Bob Avellini, Mike Phipps and Vince Evans throwing him the ball).

I can't argue with Campbell. Man, he was fun to watch when I was a kid. That clip of him where he bulls his way through the defense and gets his jersey ripped off never gets old.

 

That's about right.

 

Agree completely with your assessment of the Bills offense... but to be fair, 2006 was a tough class to get into. Maximum six enshrinees, each with a compelling argument for induction; even this rabid, #34-jersey-wearing fan didn't like Thurm's chances against that lineup.
(That said, I've already booked a hotel room in Canton for next August.)

I'll reserve judgement on Barber until I see the final numbers, but how many other modern-era RBs have made it to the Hall with only two Pro Bowl appearances and no Super Bowl rings?

 

And where are the Giants' all-pro linemen?

 

The following is a list of 'modern' (post-1951) RBs in the HoF. Go here, click on the individual links, and check out stats/history, etc. -- http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/positions.html

A lot of what is said on this thread does not apply to a lot of these backs, yet they are HoFers. Doak Walker, perhaps one of the finest men to have ever played professional football, only had 1,520 rushing yards in his CAREER, and had more receiving yards than rushing yards. Of course the eras and styles of the game have changed throughout the years, but there are some on this list, if we based the hall on stats, who do not belong.
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997
Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965
Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985
Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979
Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993
Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988
Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964
Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984
Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966
John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966
Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973
Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966
Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964
Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967
Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955
Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987
Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963
John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985
Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998
Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971
O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979
Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967
Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955
Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955

 

Starting just with Barber's breakout season in 2000, the Giants sent Ron Stone to the Pro Bowl twice. Take from that what you will.

This offensive line argument is a terrific mushmouthed cliche for players and coaches, but the matter is a lot more complex than "he had a great line" or "he had a shit line."

 

True.... it's complex... but you have to judge a back based on something.

And, the line is a big something.

 

Of course, now Tiki and his agent are spinning this as a story that should not have gotten out... they say it's true but claim it shouldn't have been written.
"TV" Barber (as his teammates call him) is beginning to look like an ass.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/463987p-390433c.html

 

I wish someone could spin your stupidity.

 

That Marcus Allen is in the HOF is the most obvious proof of what a joke the football HOF is compared to baseball.

He had three 1,000 yard seasons, all in his first four years. He never again notched even 900 yards. He was a nice role player for the Chiefs for a long time, but no one's idea of a feature back.

It's not his fault he basically missed four years for ascending to the top of Al Davis' enemy list, but it shouldn't have garnered him any sympathy votes either. There is NO WAY that guy should be in the HOF. It'd be like Nomar Garciaparra making the baseball HOF because he had a handful of stud years early before was derailed by injuries.